Hey, this is the moment. I'm Brian Koppel and thanks for listening. My guest today is a great writer. He's a novelist, also a non-fiction writer. He also teaches writing at NYU. His new book, The Queen of Tuesday, is just getting incredible reviews. It is a very special book and I am thrilled to have Darren Strauss someone.

I've read for a long time.

And although I'm not sure we ever met in person.

We're something like friends from the internet.

Darren is friends with my sister Jennifer.

We grew up two minutes from one another.

We went to the same college a few years apart.

And Darren, it's a pleasure to have you here, man.

Thank you for having me.

Huge, huge fan.

Congratulations on the success of the book.

It must be, it must be rewarding when you try something so ambitious and

people seem to understand what you were after.

Yeah, thanks. I mean, it's a relief.

You know how it is. I mean, I was just telling my kids this.

I have identical twin boys who are 12,

and it's so scary putting stuff in the world.'s so easy not to do it but you have to just

risk falling on your face you know I mean yeah I I'm getting good reviews but I kind of feel like that's just a crapsheet right?

Yeah but better when it there I mean yes and you can't internalize it for sure I but it does

make the path a little easier in a way and maybe makes you feel a little less crazy.

Oh, it's hugely easier. There's no question, but I just feel it's lucky, you know?

I mean, and we could definitely talk about this you know you've you've

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