Hi and welcome to the working songwriter. The show where today's best songwriters come to talk shop.

I'm your host, Joe Pug.

Each episode here, we host a distinguished guest, and we ask them to go deep on their

inspiration, on their process, on the general ups and downs of making a life in music. So, whether

you're a grizzled veteran, spending your latest royalty advance on a board

ape yacht club NFT, or else a scrappy upstart, screenshoting that same board ape for your

profile picture, this is your show, because ultimately it is what every writer seeks most an ironclad excuse to put off

actually writing.

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