Britain, in the end, was not prepared to become a province of a country called Europe.

We want to have the best and closest relations with our neighbors.

They will remain our friends and our allies and our suppliers and our customers.

But we want to live under our own laws, just like any other country.

Hey, hey, and welcome. This is The Ben Shapiro Show's Sunday special with Daniel Hannan.

He's the president of the initiative for free trade and a UK member of the EU Parliament.

Daniel, thanks so much for stopping. Thank you, Ben. It's great to be here. I'm a big fan.

Well, thank you. I appreciate it. Back at you. So let's jump right in. Obviously, what's at the

forefront of every person's mind when they hear your accent is what is happening with Brexit.

So what is sort of the latest there?

Well, first of all, I'm the only person in this conversation who doesn't have an accent, right?

What's happening with Brexit? Look, what's happening with Brexit is that two years ago, two years ago there was an election during which every major party promised to uphold

the referendum result. It's now clear that one of those two parties didn't mean it. The Labor Party

have done everything they counter-fustrated. So we've had years of postponement and delay, and it is making people crazy.

And one of the things it is infuriating is you hear people saying, Brexit has divided the country, Brexit has made you all mad, Brexit has set people against it. Brexit hasn't happened. I mean, do I need to spell this out? The thing that is dividing the country, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, is exactly the opposite. It is the refusal of members of parliament to do what they promised and honor the result. So there have been a lot of folks who have been uttering the word Brexit President. Trump obviously says Brexit a lot.

I don't know that very many people know exactly what Brexit is, what drove it. What is the history of Brexit? Why is it happening? Why did the British population vote for it? If the European Union were just a club, if it were just a trade association, if it were a group of neighboring countries

wanting to do things together, there'd have been no referendum, there'd be no argument,

right? You'd have to be crazy to have a problem with that. The problem was that the EU didn't

stop there. It wanted ultimately to become a country called Europe. And one by one, it acquired

all of the attributes and trappings of a nation-state.

It has a flag. It has national anthem. It has a passport, a parliament, a president, a

Supreme Court, external borders, representation at the UN, developing military capacity,

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