Brian Rose from London Real. We're at Primrose Hill, which is a historic park in

London and behind me you can see the skyline of London. You've got Canary

Wharf, the new building, the shard, the BT Tower, the London eye. I love coming up here.

It's great for meditating during the summer. It's packed.

Everyone's hanging out, drinking, having a good time. We've just dropped the episode

with Dr Robin Carhart Harris and he was the doctor who's doing research now with

Silasibbon and MDMA to see if it can treat depression and even drug addiction and everyone's

loving this episode. he's a real scientist

that actually gets to the science of how psychedelics work and I like it because it's

kind of bridging the two communities of non-believers and then hardcore believers in the psychedelics. There's a lot of

controversy. Some people say that he's too analytic, but I like the fact that he's a

doctor and is taking a very clinical approach to describing something like Suckadelics which most people have just anecdotal evidence.

So if you haven't checked that episode out definitely.

This week we have Mr. Daniel Pink on the show.

He's an author of his latest book which is

called To Sell is Human. He's also written another book called Drive and he looks

really at a lot of the human components that make up economics in this case he talks

about how as humans were actually constantly selling whether it's actually like

trying to convince your kid to brush his teeth or whether you're trying to

push an innovation we're actually in all ways

selling something. So it's really interesting how he breaks that down and diagnoses it.

You know, he was with us for just an hour. It was like a

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