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DarkHorse Podcast

Dangers of the mental multiverse: The 287th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

DarkHorse Podcast

Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying

Natural Sciences, Society & Culture, News, Adaptation, Modernity, Culture, Politics, Science, Evolutionary Biology

4.65.3K Ratings

🗓️ 30 July 2025

⏱️ 103 minutes

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Summary

Today we discuss “gender affirming surgeries”, AI and the future of cognition, and wild foxes. Kaiser Permanente is pausing surgery on trans-presenting children—we discuss sex and gender, meaning and identity, delusion and madness. Then: unlike the physical multiverse, mental multiverses are common, and becoming more so, as AI makes it ever more difficult to know what is true. We discuss grief, and how our worlds must fork when we think, but do not know, that someone has died. Similarly, when...

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0:00.0

Hey folks, welcome to the Dark Horse podcast live stream. It is our 287th live stream and the first live

0:13.6

stream after the tsunami. So, yes, the tsunami, which did not really touch us here, to extent that anything at all happened, water-wise, it happened in the dark and it wasn't large enough for anyone to detect.

0:28.5

But it was quite an event, and it does seem to have reached many places.

0:33.1

Following an 8.8 magnitude earthquake off the east coast, I guess northeast coast of Russia yesterday.

0:42.1

There was, there were tsunami warnings for everywhere across the Pacific. And Hawaii got

0:47.7

affected, even parts of far northern California coast, Crescent City. and we had warnings here in the San Juan Islands,

0:55.8

but nothing. It's just remarkable, though, to recognize both how much water there is.

1:04.0

We're talking about water being displaced on one side of the Pacific Ocean, by far the largest

1:10.3

ocean on our planet,

1:12.4

and having effects on the opposite side because of one of water's remarkable qualities,

1:18.1

which is that it does not compress.

1:20.1

And so when displaced, it has to go somewhere.

1:22.4

It does not compress into a smaller space than it was in.

1:26.2

Yes, I think to be careful, we just have to say the Pacific is the largest ocean yet

1:32.3

discovered on Earth.

1:33.9

No, we do not.

1:34.6

We do not.

1:35.1

All right.

1:35.4

Well, out of an abundance of caution, I will just make that caveat because.

1:41.2

Yes, I've been trying to introduce out of an abundance of caution into conversations

1:45.8

where it really does not belong to point out just how absurd a turn of phrase that has been

1:53.5

and how it has been wielded to sneak things in to people but yes out of an abundance of caution

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