Kennedy, Pharma, and the Battle over mRNA: The 288th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

DarkHorse Podcast

Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying

Natural Sciences, Society & Culture, News, Adaptation, Modernity, Culture, Politics, Science, Evolutionary Biology

4.6 • 5.3K Ratings

🗓️ 6 August 2025

⏱️ 105 minutes

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Today we discuss the cancellation of mRNA vaccine contracts by Secretary Kennedy. What are the risks, are they as limited as he suggests, and what can we look forward to from this technology in the future? Conversation includes Covid and the Covid shots, repurposed drugs, and the nature of science and knowledge. What does it mean for a claim to be credible—socially, or analytically? What does MAHA stand for, are their limits to hypernovelty, and how can we return to a more ancestral environme...

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0:00.0	Hey folks, welcome to the Dark Horse podcast live stream number.
0:10.4	Is it 290?
0:11.9	I've lost track again.
0:13.1	Yes, you have.
0:13.8	I have lost track again.
0:15.1	It's 288.
0:16.1	280, which is not far.
0:17.2	I mean, you know, I'm in the ballpark there.
0:19.7	All right.
0:20.2	It's 288, not prime.
0:22.9	I am the fly in the ointment on the wall.
0:26.4	Apparently.
0:27.0	And you are Dr. Heather Hewing.
0:28.6	I am also Dr. Brett Weinstein.
0:30.7	We are a little discombobulated.
0:32.6	We have just had guests on the island.
0:34.3	We are currently being stalked by a cougar that has swam onto the island.
0:39.2	So there's lots going on here. That is, that has been reported by at least one runner. I have heard
0:45.2	people. I've heard that there are multiple people reporting it. I don't honestly know if it's not a
0:49.9	single data point and it's an anecdote. I revise my claim. We have what at the very least is
0:56.6	bound to be quite a large house cat and may be a cougar. I'm sort of excited about this. You know,
1:03.6	islands are wonderful in many ways. We have lots of amazing wildlife to see, but it's not a high
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