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A production of IHeart Radio. Hello, welcome back to the show.

My name is Matt.

Our colleague, Noel, is on an adventure, but we'll be returning soon.

They call me Ben.

We're joined, as always, with our super producer, Dylan, the Tennessee pal Fagan.

Most importantly,

you are you, you are here. And that makes this, the stuff they don't want you to know.

Longtime listeners, Matt, Dylan, you guys know this as well. We're familiar with the concept of the dark net, the way it is both misrepresented and accurately explored in the

information age. Matt, what's the most basic definition of the dark net? It's the stuff

that's not easy to get to if you're just using a browser the way most of us do when we're

accessing parts of the internet that we're used to. It's the stuff

that's a little more hidden. Yeah, yeah. And that's a really great starting point for that

definition. You know, it's the part of the wide internet that is not indexed by search engines,

as you said. But there's a lot more to that because in the absence of transparency,

all sorts of things can thrive. I think we're both interested to learn studies show the

dark net is home to an astonishing, terrifying amount of criminal activity of almost any genre,

one might imagine. And this evening, fellow conspiracy realist, Matt, we are thrilled to be

joined with the award-winning journalist, technology researcher, global preeminent expert on all

things involving the dark net and the future of a technological age. It's the author and

host of the number one podcast podcast Kill List, Carl Miller.

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