Fellow conspiracy realist, we are returning with the second part of our two-part interview with Mike Render.

We're asking questions in this one, like how many members does the Church of Scientology actually have?

What's going on in Clearwater, Florida?

And I think this interview was very important to all of us because Mike does a fantastic job of fielding questions.

I think he's very fair.

And he's perhaps most importantly speaking from experience.

I thought you were going to say fair game.

Sorry.

Well, he certainly was.

Do we want to talk about what fair game is for a second?

Yeah, I believe you may have covered it in the first episode, but just as a refresher,

it's just the concept within Scientology of anybody who is speaking out against Scientology

as being someone who is an acceptable target.

That can mean everything from falling around, surveilling, doxing, any number of

kind of nefarious ways of messing with people's lives who have spoken out against the church.

Bullying, character assassination, violent retribution.

We also want to shout out the show that Mike was helming at the

time of this interview, which is Scientology fair game. That's right. Let's roll part two of our

interview with Mike Render. Do you want to understand an invisible force that's shaping your life?

I'm Osvaloshin, one of the new hosts of the long-running podcast, Tech Stuff.

I'm slightly skeptical, but obsessively intrigued.

And I'm Kara Price, the other new host.

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