Danger Close | The Fourth Option Podcast: John Devine

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🗓️ 3 June 2026

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Today on DANGER CLOSE: THE FOURTH OPTION, I’m joined by my former Navy SEAL Teammate John Devine of Devine K9s and the Rescue 22 Foundation. John brings decades of experience working with elite K9s, from the SEAL Teams to personal protection dogs and service dogs for veterans. We discuss the selection and training of SEAL K9s, the bond between handler and dog, how these dogs operate in combat, and what breeds like the Belgian Malinois require of those who take on the responsibility. This is a companion podcast to my new thriller, THE FOURTH OPTION, talking to those on the front lines, analyzing modern warfare, and taking listeners deeper into the themes that inspired the novel. This podcast series is presented by HUXWRX Safety Co., Staccato 2011, and Bravo Company. To learn more about Devine K9s, visit https://www.devinek9s.com/ To learn more about the Rescue 22 Foundation, visit https://www.rescue22foundation.org/ THE FOURTH OPTION : https://www.officialjackcarr.com/books/the-fourth-option/ Order on Amazon: https://amzn.to/4sZEdJS

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0:00.0	This episode was brought to you by Huxworks Safety Company.
0:05.0	Innovators of flow-through technology.
0:08.0	We need dogs that can be social enough to work in a stack,
0:12.0	but also be hard enough to drag a bad guy out from under a bed by their face.
0:16.0	We've had dogs in the SEAL teams that were 85, 90, 95 pounds, monsters that when they bite their arm, like,
0:23.7	you can hear the bones breaking.
0:40.3	Yeah. What's up. What's up, buddy?
0:57.1	How are you?
0:58.2	Where are you?
0:59.8	I'm in the Netherlands right now.
1:02.0	Are you picking up dogs?
1:03.8	I am testing a bunch right now.
1:05.8	And then they're going to be getting shipped in within the next couple weeks.
1:09.7	Nice.
1:10.7	Where are they for?
1:11.9	Top secret.
1:14.6	No, I mean, nothing too top secret.
1:19.9	At least the cover story is that they're going to be mostly personal protection dogs and companions.
1:21.3	I know you got things to do.
1:22.5	I sincerely appreciate you doing it.
1:23.9	And I appreciate all the help with this latest book.
1:27.1	I mean, the past books as well, but with this late book, especially. Dude, I doing it. And since I appreciate all the help with this latest book, I mean, the past books as well, but with this. Dude, I love the book. Like, this is really, really good. I really like it. Man, I appreciate it. I appreciate it. Of course, there's a Belgian Malinois in there named Paladin that has a, is character in this in this novel so I wanted to
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