Danger Close | The Fourth Option Podcast: Ben Owen & Jessica Owen

The Jack Carr Channel

Jack Carr

Society & Culture

4.9 • 2.9K Ratings

🗓️ 27 May 2026

⏱️ 71 minutes

🔗️ Recording | iTunes | RSS

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

Today on DANGER CLOSE: THE FOURTH OPTION, I’m joined by Ben and Jessica Owen, founders of We Fight Monsters, an organization dedicated to confronting trafficking and addiction with a lawful, boots-on-the-ground response. Ben and Jessica share their own battles with addiction, homelessness, and life inside trap houses in South Memphis, and how recovery led to restoration and a calling to go back for others. We get into their mission to Rescue, Recover, and Restore, the reality of addiction as a tool of control, the connection between narcotics and exploitation, their work converting former dope houses into recovery spaces, their experience running safe houses during the Afghanistan evacuation, and why redemption often begins by helping others. This is a companion podcast to my new thriller, THE FOURTH OPTION, talking to those on the front lines, analyzing modern warfare, and taking listeners deeper into the themes that inspired the novel. This podcast series is presented by HUXWRX Safety Co., Staccato 2011, and Bravo Company. HUXWRX Safety Co.: https://huxwrx.com/ Staccato 2011: https://staccato2011.com/ Bravo Company USA: https://bravocompanyusa.com THE FOURTH OPTION : https://www.officialjackcarr.com/books/the-fourth-option/ Order on Amazon: https://amzn.to/4sZEdJS To learn more about We Fight Monsters, visit https://wefightmonsters.org/

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0	This episode was brought to you by Huxworks Safety Company,
0:05.0	innovators of flow-through technology.
0:08.0	You don't have to have shackles and chains to have slaves today.
0:12.0	I'm just being real. If you have something that's addicted to a substance
0:15.0	and you control that person's access to that substance, you have a human slave.
0:19.0	Figure out that thing that breaks your heart, the thing that makes you scroll faster when you're on the internet, you don't want to look at it, you hate it. Find that thing that breaks your heart and then do what it's completely unnatural and that is run towards it. You're going to find purpose. I promise you're going to find purpose in that thing. All right. There they are.
1:06.4	Hey, hey, my God.
1:07.4	Jessica, how are you guys?
1:09.0	Yeah, man.
1:09.5	How are you?
1:10.5	Oh, wow. Thank you for taking the time to do this today. I really appreciate it.
1:13.6	Dude, thank you for the opportunity, man.
1:15.6	Yes.
1:16.6	Oh, man, incredible. I mean, I've been going through your website and looking at your story and got linked up for you because my book, the next book coming out, the fourth option is kind of, it's in New Orleans. I know you guys aren't there, but it has these drug connections.
1:31.8	And God, it's just, it seemed like it's, there's a lot of touch points with what you guys on through.
1:37.6	Memphis, New Orleans are very similar.
1:39.8	Okay.
1:40.6	Very similar.
1:41.6	You get the same demographics.
1:43.0	You got the same problems. You got the same problems.
1:45.2	In fact, Memphis has a huge ex-nola population that came up our way after Katrina.
1:50.4	So New Orleans basically exported a lot of its problems to Memphis.
	...

Transcript will be available on the free plan in 18 days. Upgrade to see the full transcript now.

Previous episode | Next episode

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Jack Carr, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of Jack Carr and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.