4.6 • 1.7K Ratings
🗓️ 4 May 2023
⏱️ 60 minutes
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We can thank Kevin Costner's "Dances With Wolves" for reinvigorating Westerns for the '90s, leading to other Shat movies like "Tombstone" and "Unforgiven." For '80s kids, it also served as a gateway to exploring American Indian culture and history.
Despite questionable mustaches and a conspicuous score, "Dances With Wolves" was visually stunning, emotionally effective and, in Ash's case, occasionally terrifying. Yes, it still had some corny narration and gratuitous slow-motion. But that's the '90s, baby!
In this episode, Gene applauds Costner for casting a "kinda old" lead lady. Ash hails "Dances With Wolves" as the model of using a simple story to great impact, and Big D asks how John Dunbar became fluent in Lakota. The Shat Crew also discusses the buffalo hunt, the noble savage, brain damage from repeated blows to the head and how much Americans suck.
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0:00.0 | I'm coming out of my hut. There could be danger all around. What's going on? Oh, my goodness. Look at the landscape. Look at the natural beauty. It's so majestic. Every time something happens, this comes up. It's like a Disney, like a Disney ride. |
0:20.0 | Right. Which made it awesome. Yeah. |
0:24.0 | Remember when we first met John McLean? Oh God, I picked him up from the plane and took him down the knack and told me tower at the Christmas party. And the terrorists were over zealous, but it was sweet when they killed Alice. |
0:40.0 | And with a little help from Alice, John McLean kicked out. |
0:45.0 | Welcome back to Chat The Movies, the podcast where we answer the question where the movies we love when we were growing up really that good. Have you ever caught yourself thinking, why don't they make movies like they used to? Can you still remember spending your Friday night searching for the perfect movie rental blockbuster video? Do you know what blockbuster video is? |
1:00.0 | If you answered yes, and this is the podcast for you, I am one of your hosts, Gene Lyons, and alongside me on my co-host, Ash, please don't hurt my mules, Timons. Hi y'all. |
1:10.0 | And Big D Dickie Bird. Good evening. In each week, we take a look back in time to see if our favorite film still holds up. The movies we cover are chosen by you, the listeners who generously commissioned the films you love. If you'd like to see all the movies we have covered, we'll cover one to choose one for yourself. Please visit chatpod.com and have a look. At the end of each podcast, we'll provide you the audience with the number of wipes each movie we take to get our perspective. |
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1:39.0 | We review TV series such as Westworld, Taboo, American Gods, Game of Thrones, True Detective, Lovecraft Country, and Watchmen. Find all the information and past episodes at chatpod.com slash TV. |
1:50.0 | And finally, to hang out with us live, follow and subscribe to our Twitch channel, chatpod.com slash Twitch, where you play video games, host watch parties, and edit this podcast live. All that being said, Big D, what move you're reviewing tonight? |
2:04.0 | Jean, for tonight's recording and tonight's film, it's a very, very special day. It's a formal day. I felt like I should have worn a tux and a tie. This isn't so much a movie as this is a film. |
2:16.0 | This is a moment in time. No obscure, like Japanese animated film here. No, no, just small time picture with a tiny budget. This is what shot the movies was made for. |
2:28.0 | This is a multi Oscar winner top 250 IMDB film. And that's why I was excited when one of our great listeners Josh wrote in and asked us to commission the 1990 epic Western dances with wolves. |
2:41.0 | When Josh ran and said, Hey, guys, I'm not sure what to say. So I'll just start typing and see what happens. I started listening around 2018 19 and when I look back on the last four years, it's hard not to get emotional. |
2:53.0 | We had a major lawsuit of bankruptcy, a pandemic, a suicide in the family and finally some redemption. I've had four kids in there, one since I requested this commission, and your pod was a cornerstone for me. |
3:04.0 | Listening to you guys banter at the movies I grew up on gave me comfort. I could always throw the buds and take a walk and feel normal again for an hour or five if I needed it. I couldn't do it without you. I honestly don't know what drives you to keep putting the effort and after all this time, but it's appreciated. |
3:18.0 | On to the movie. The first time I saw dances with wolves must have been 91. My mother got remarried and my brother and I went to stay with an aunt, and I can still see the frame movie poster hanging over her chest or feel that was not for sitting in the sitting room that was never to have people inside. |
3:32.0 | She owned three movies. This one being my favorite as it was in color. My brother and I watched it on repeat and it's been with me ever since. |
3:39.0 | Now I don't know how this will hold up. I'm sure Jean will have some white savior rant prepared and willing to look past that and the historical inaccuracies. |
3:46.0 | Seeing it through John Dunbur's eyes was a way to connect to a culture I knew nothing about, and I don't know I would have started that journey without this film. |
3:54.0 | Trying to be objective I'll say 1.5 wipes. In my heart, it's a quarter of a wipe all day. Thanks again for all you do. Boobs. Ha ha. I just made ash say boobs. For ever a friend, Josh. |
4:07.0 | Josh, you were so close. I'm not going to talk about white savior. I am going to talk about noble savage on this podcast. |
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