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I just find the opposition to the filibuster to be such an infuriating position to have because you're acknowledging that we're going to do nothing about climate change until the planet melts.

If we have to wait for 8-10 Republicans to decide to do something about climate change, the Senate is going to be underwater.

Hello and welcome to this our client show on the Vox Media podcast network.

My guest today is Dan Fyfer, my best known now for being co-host of hot safe America videos.

Of course communications director in the Obama White House and he is the author of the new book Untrumping America.

And this is a great conversation to have right now both about political strategy and the Democratic Party in this moment.

But also about the broader context in which a Democratic Party is taking place and trying to figure out its way forward.

Which I think is often understood to be the context of Donald Trump.

But in a very fundamental way that I think is not rigorously looked at or argued out well, it's actually the context of Barack Obama and what he succeeded at and what he failed.

So we dig into that pretty deeply here.

As always my email is as a client show at box.com again as a client show at box.com here is Dan Fyfer.

Dan Fyfer welcome back guest. It's good to be here. I want to start with something you say in the book that a lot of people are not going to like to hear.

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