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🗓️ 3 August 2022
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Another day, another leader of al-Qaeda is killed by U.S. forces. This time, it was Ayman al-Zawahiri, killed on his balcony in Kabul by a Hellfire missile strike. To talk about it all, Benjamin Wittes sat down with Lawfare senior editor Scott R. Anderson and Lawfare’s foreign policy editor Daniel Byman. Is it a big deal? Is it kind of old news that we’ve killed yet another al-Qaeda leader? How badly degraded is al-Qaeda? Who's going to replace al-Zawahiri? What does it mean for the Taliban's promises not to allow al-Qaeda attacks on the United States to be planned from its soil? And what is the international and domestic law of killing al-Qaeda leaders 21 years after 9/11.
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| 0:29.0 | We could focus on a few high-value or high-interest individuals. |
| 0:39.0 | We can do more if we're doing it in conjunction with allies, |
| 0:42.0 | as we do in many parts of the world, |
| 0:44.0 | those certainly not the telemands I've gassed in. |
| 0:46.0 | But I think this is much more likely to be a one-off. |
| 0:49.0 | And in my view, there's been some confusion when people talk about leadership targeting, |
| 0:55.0 | where people tend to focus on the killing bin Laden or Zawahari or Baghdaddi or the very highest levels. |
| 1:02.0 | And I think a lot of the success comes when we go on farther down the food chain. |
| 1:06.0 | I'm Benjamin Wittis and this is the LawFair podcast, August 3rd, 2022. |
| 1:13.0 | Another day, another leader of Al Qaeda is killed by U.S. forces. |
| 1:20.0 | This time, it was Iman Al Zawahari killed on his balcony in Kabul by a Hellfire missile strike. |
| 1:29.0 | Joining me in the virtual jungle studio to talk about it all, |
| 1:34.0 | our LawFair senior editor Scott R. Anderson and LawFair's foreign policy editor, Daniel Bimon. |
| 1:42.0 | Is it a big deal? |
| 1:44.0 | Is it kind of old news? |
| 1:46.0 | We kill one one day, another one pops up, and eventually we get him too. |
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