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The Good Fight

Damon Linker on The Spiral of Violence in America

The Good Fight

Yascha Mounk

News

4.6907 Ratings

🗓️ 16 September 2025

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

Yascha Mounk and Damon Linker discuss the fallout from the assassination of Charlie Kirk—and what happens next. Damon Linker is a senior lecturer in political science at the University of Pennsylvania and writes the subscription newsletter “Notes from the Middleground” at Substack. He is the author of The Theocons and The Religious Test. He is currently working on a book for Princeton University Press about Leo Strauss and his influence on the American right. In this conversation, Yascha Mounk and Damon Linker discuss reactions to the murder of Charlie Kirk, what it shows about polarization in America, and the likelihood of further political violence. Email: [email protected] Podcast production by Jack Shields and Leonora Barclay. Connect with us! ⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠Apple⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠Google⁠⁠ X: ⁠⁠@Yascha_Mounk⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠@JoinPersuasion⁠⁠ YouTube: ⁠⁠Yascha Mounk⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Persuasion⁠⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠⁠Persuasion Community⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:04.0

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0:09.0

Oh God.

0:10.0

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0:15.0

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0:16.0

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0:19.0

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0:22.4

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0:23.3

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0:24.9

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0:27.3

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0:28.6

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0:30.5

How many people does it take to really ruin a democracy?

0:35.7

How many of us need to be committed to,

0:39.3

if not even political violence,

0:41.2

then supporting an illiberal

0:43.3

crackdown on the threat of

0:45.3

political violence? A million,

0:47.5

two million, three million? What's

0:49.2

that? That's one percent of our population.

0:52.2

Three million people

0:53.3

committed to political violence can do a lot of damage.

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