Hello and welcome back to damages, the Law Focused podcast from Drilled.

We have a new season coming, June 3rd, all about the energy transfer versus Greenpeace case and the countersuit in Europe,

where Greenpeace has invoked the EU's anti-SLAPP statute to sue energy transfer for harassment.

It is a complicated and fascinating story, and I cannot wait for you to hear it.

In the meantime, I wanted to bring you an update on climate

cases in the U.S., especially given some of the recent efforts by the Trump administration to quash

some of them. To help me out with that, I've got Kathy Mulvey with the Union of Concerned Scientists here today.

Kathy is the Accountability Campaign Director at UCS, which just released a report called

Decades of Deception that pulls together in one place all the primary documents out there

showing what the fossil fuel industry knew about climate change, when it knew it, and what

they did with that information.

You might think you already know this story. I thought I did, but I learned a few things,

and I hope you will too.

I've read the report.

It's super interesting, and I have a bunch of questions for you.

But I want to start with the question I expect to get from people, which is, okay, what's new?

What's new that we didn't already know in this report?

What do you want to point people to you on that front?

Yeah.

So what's new is really that we've put these documents

together in a coherent narrative. So, you know, these are primary sources about what major fossil

fuel corporations knew when about the harms that their products would cause to climate

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