We have to understand that in the trial,

all this struggle process is not a struggle process.

It is a struggle process of the affected peoples.

This is Pablo Fajardo again, the Ecuadorian lawyer we heard from last time.

He says, what you have to understand with this trial,

with everything about this case, is that it's not the lawyer's legal fight.

La lucha.

The legal fight is for los poeblos afictados,

the towns that were affected, the people who were affected.

So it's not the lawyers, it's the people who were directly affected.

That's what they're fighting for.

This right here is the center of this story, the heart.

A lot of what has happened in the decade since the verdict in Ecuador has focused

on the ins and outs of legal process.

Things lawyers are doing far away from the oil pits in Ecuador,

but at its root, this case is about an environmental disaster,

the poisoning of a pristine jungle and the people living in it.

And the fact that those people are still suffering the consequences of what was done 30, 40 years ago.

May have picked up on this last time, but Fajardo and Don Zaguerre are somewhat at odds these days.

Neither will say exactly why, but there are a few possibilities on the table.

First, Fajardo is now also suing Petro Ecuador,

the state-owned oil company that Chevron has said is really responsible for the pollution in the Amazon.

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