Daisy May and Charlie Cooper: Being working class made us angry! Combat imposter syndrome
Happy Place
Fearne Cotton
4.6 • 15.2K Ratings
🗓️ 3 November 2025
⏱️ 49 minutes
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Summary
Do you have a chip on your shoulder? Actors Daisy May and Charlie Cooper say growing up working class made them angry, but that feeling like outsiders in their industry has been a powerful motivator.
In this chat with Fearne, Daisy May and Charlie explain how they’ve dealt with feeling threatened by authority and power. They also reveal why This Country almost didn’t happen because a contract meant they might have to pay £350,000 to buy back their own characters... They chat about the importance of trusting your gut when no one else believes in you.
Is your sibling the funniest person you’ll ever meet? Quite possibly. Daisy May and Charlie explore their shared interest in the paranormal, and their wildly different parenting styles.
Plus, how has Daisy May found inner peace now? Rules including no phone, no alcohol, and no people pleasing have definitely helped...
You can watch Daisy May and Charlie on their new BBC show NightWatch now.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to Happy Place with me, Fern Cotton. |
| 0:03.7 | This is the show that encourages you to trust your gut. |
| 0:07.8 | Today, I'm chatting to Daisy May and Charlie Cooper. |
| 0:11.7 | Growing up with no money and being working class made us actually really fucking angry. |
| 0:17.3 | I didn't realise that I still had a fucking chip on my shoulder about it. |
| 0:21.2 | This year for me has been one of the hardest years of my life. |
| 0:26.9 | Talking about like those patterns and how they keep coming back until you face them. |
| 0:32.0 | And I feel like for the first time I've really confronted it head on |
| 0:37.4 | and had to take a look at parts of myself that I probably |
| 0:41.3 | wanted to run from. Do you know what? I've wanted these two on the podcast forever. I am such a fan |
| 0:49.8 | of this country and just them as a double act, as brother and sister. And it's so funny because |
| 0:55.6 | Daisy and I, I don't know how it even swap numbers, but we'd been chatting for like years on |
| 1:01.3 | text. I'm talking like years and years. Remember texting all through lockdown and we'd |
| 1:05.8 | face time each other here and there. We tried to meet up and then both of us ended up not having child care |
| 1:11.8 | or something. So this was the first time we'd actually met, been in the same room together. |
| 1:16.3 | And it was just brilliant. Just like from the minute they walked in the room, it was just |
| 1:22.4 | laughing out loud, loads of swearing, which you're going to hear in just a moment. Charlie had a bit of a cold, |
| 1:29.0 | so he was feeling a bit poorly, but you wouldn't know it from listening to this episode at all. |
| 1:33.6 | The thing I love about Charlie and Daisy is just their honesty. I think when we get so much |
| 1:40.7 | polished content thrown our way, if it's on social media or YouTube or whatever. People just |
| 1:47.6 | like showing their best selves and their perfect lives. And Charlie and Daisy not only in this |
| 1:53.1 | episode to have like full-blown arguments, but they just say it as it is. There's no beating |
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