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Switched on Pop

D.O.C. (Death of the Chorus) with Emily Warren

Switched on Pop

Vox Media Podcast Network

Music Interviews, Music History, Music, Music Commentary

4.6 • 2.7K Ratings

🗓️ 12 January 2021

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Listen to Top 40 pop over the last decade and you’ll notice something weird is happening. The chorus—the emotional apotheosis of a pop song, its dizzying high, its cathartic sing-along center—is disappearing. In its place, artists from Bad Bunny to Taylor Swift are toying with new, chorus-lite song forms that introduce a new musical grammar to the sound of contemporary pop. We may not think much about pop structure when listening to our favorite songs, but this is a big deal—the last time pop experienced such a seismic shift was when the chorus first came into fashion, back in the 1960s. What does this mean for modern musicians and listeners? Emily Warren, songwriter for new-guard stars like Dua Lipa and Khalid, joins to break down why the sea change in pop form represents a new horizon of creative possibility. Songs Discussed Bad Bunny - Si Veo a Tu Mamá Future & Drake - Life Is Good Billie Holiday - Blue Moon Beyonce - Formation Travis Scott - Sicko Mode Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody Aretha Franklin - (You Make Me Feel Like) A Natural Woman Drake - Laugh Now Cry Later (ft. Lil Durk) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:36.0

Which dawn pop?

0:42.0

Welcome to Switched On Pop. I'm Slangwriter Charlie Harding.

0:45.0

And I'm musicologist Nate Sloan.

0:47.0

It would be an understatement to say that we are in a moment of significant change in so many ways.

0:53.0

But obviously with Switched On Pop, we need to get into what's changing in popular music in 2021.

1:00.0

And we are at a 75 year tectonic shift.

1:04.0

The blueprint of the pop song is being rewritten. We're talking about song form.

1:10.0

This is the thing we've talked about a bit on the show last year, right?

1:13.0

Sorry. You said song form and I just immediately fell asleep.

1:20.0

Why is that so boring and why should I care about it?

1:24.0

Song form is perhaps the most important thing that we don't pay much attention to.

1:30.0

It's the underlying structure that supports all of our listening.

1:33.0

It's sort of like all of our core assumptions about it.

1:35.0

Oh, come on.

1:37.0

Oh, sorry. No, I just got a little narcoleptic.

1:39.0

I genuinely am interested in song form.

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