I'm Hillary Kerr and this is Second Life, a podcast spotlighting women who have truly

inspiring careers.

We're talking about their work journeys, what they've learned from the process of setting

aside their doubts or fears, and what happens when they embark on their second life.

Today, it is my great honor to have the amazing Cindy Ramirez Fulton on this podcast.

She is the co-founder and CEO of the most incredible place in New York called Chillhouse,

which is a manicure, massage, cafe mashup that's pretty much everything you want in self-care.

It's doing a tremendous business right now and is beloved by celebrities and influencers alike.

But of course, Cindy's career didn't quite start out this way.

While she's always had an entrepreneurial spirit before Cindy ran her own next generation,

self-care hotspot, she worked in the fashion and tech space.

I'm so excited to talk to her about making the leap.

Now, on Second Life, it's Cindy Ramirez Fulton.

On this pod, I always like to start at the beginning.

So, what did you study in school and what did you think you wanted to be when you grew up?

So, I went to school for fashion marketing.

I think my mom, we grew up shopping a lot together.

So, I was definitely a bit of a fashion girl growing up,

but I wasn't really sure if that was the direction I was going to take for the rest of my life.

Additionally, when I was a teenager, I was an actor and a model.

So, that ended up going into my 20s.

I did a lot of that while also bartending and XYZ.

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