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The Origins Podcast with Lawrence Krauss

Cyan Banister: A master class in curiosity--Risk, Resilience and Betting on the Future

The Origins Podcast with Lawrence Krauss

Lawrence M. Krauss

Science, Natural Sciences, Physics

4.4592 Ratings

🗓️ 24 January 2025

⏱️ 208 minutes

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Summary

As promised we are extremely excited to release our newest podcast, with acclaimed angel investor and silicon valley visionary, Cyan Banister. As I described in my last substack post, she is actually so much more. She found herself homeless in Northern Arizona at the age of 13, and undaunted, eventually became a self taught software engineer, and then moved on to become a legend in Silicon Valley.

We did a deep dive into her origins, from her early childhood, through abandonment at 13, homelessness as a teenager, the key developments that led her to become a self-taught software engineer, and eventually to have the opportunity to become an angel investor, leading her to become among the first investors in SpaceX, Uber, and many more companies, and then to her thoughts about nature, technology and the future. It was a remarkable discussion with a remarkable individual. Cyan defies any stereotype and we are very pleased that she regarded our 3.5 hr discussion as the most comprehensive and enlightening podcast she has done. We even made several discoveries together about how developments when she was young affected her approach to business and life today, and also how what she views as her purposes in life perhaps reflect key gifts that helped raise her up in her own story. And, in the true spirit of connecting science and culture that is at the heart of the Origins Podcast, we also explored how she actually approaches both life and business with a true scientific attitude—exploring, experimenting, letting nature and experience guide her, and a willingness to change her mind.

Everyone who has heard anything about Cyan’s story has been inspired. We feel that our dialogue, which takes her story to a whole new level, will touch anyone who has faced what seem to be insurmountable challenges, and inspire people to think more creatively about their own futures, and how what we can do to help people better achieve their aspirations, and of course better address the challenges of the 21st Century.

If it isn’t clear already, I think this podcast could, in the long run, be one of the most significant discussions we have ever done. Enjoy.

As always, an ad-free video version of this podcast is also available to paid Critical Mass subscribers. Your subscriptions support the non-profit Origins Project Foundation, which produces the podcast. The audio version is available free on the Critical Mass site and on all podcast sites, and the video version will also be available on the Origins Project YouTube.



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0:00.0

Cyan Bannister, I am so happy to do this podcast with you here in this wonderful studio,

0:14.0

a rare thing for us to do actually, but it's for a rare guest.

0:17.1

And I wanted to have you on the podcast for so long as you know and it's for the for

0:23.8

the standard viewership or listenership this slightly different topic and context than we normally

0:29.7

talk about so for people who aren't familiar with you I want to give them a little bit of a

0:34.3

primer first thing to know is that you were one of the first investors in Uber,

0:39.5

Nyantic, Postmates, Deep Mine, SpaceX, and a lot of other companies.

0:43.8

And we'll talk about that.

0:45.7

But there's some things I've been reading about you, which are interesting, and I think

0:49.4

describe you nicely.

0:50.3

So I want to read them.

0:52.3

First of all, you credit your success to incrementalism,

0:56.7

capitalism, individualism, mentorship, and endless curiosity. Something I've learned about you

1:03.2

is that you are indeed endlessly curious, which is wonderful. You also said capitalism saved your

1:08.5

life, which is something we may want to get to.

1:13.1

And some things that have been written about you.

1:15.4

The Founders Fund partner Brian Singerman said,

1:17.9

our team has known Sion for years,

1:20.6

and we've been continually impressed by her ability to identify some of the most impactful technology companies in the world

1:25.0

at the earliest stages.

1:26.9

Again, something that I want to get to. Someone else,

1:30.2

Paulina Maranova said, it is difficult to describe Bannister as she does not fit in perfectly in any

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