Hello and welcome to another episode of I Way with Jameel Adjamel, a podcast against shame.

I hope you're well and I can't believe that we're coming up to three years of this podcast.

Thank you so much to all of you who've been listening from the start. I really can't believe that

it's been this long and I can't believe how many people I've spoken to but sometimes it freaks me out

because I'm like fuck who else? Who else is there? Who's going to be willing to talk to me,

especially because I don't leave my house and I don't meet anyone and I spend most of my time with

my boyfriend, my flatmates and my dog. So I never know how I'm even going to gain access. Obviously

there's so many fascinating people from all over the world. I get really intimidated but sometimes

that guest falls right into my lap and that's exactly how it happened with Amanda Montel. She has

a perfect example of why I should never give up and I should always keep looking in the most

unexpected places for fascinating people who can come onto this podcast and teach me and maybe

enlighten you in some way. I met her at a pool party which is somewhere that you can never find

me. I think it was my first ever pool party. Normally I avoid them at all cost and everyone there,

everyone at the party had bought their swimsuit and everyone was super cool and comfortable and

casual and having loads of fun in the water and I just fucking couldn't bring myself to participate

but I didn't want to leave because everyone was so nice and it was my friend's party. So instead I

decided to sit next to the pool, the only person outside of the pool dressed head to toe wearing an

industrial strength, a purple boy, a creepy sort of pido, bani, the dinosaur. I only say pido because

it's like that person who's at the park who doesn't have a kid. I felt that way being at a pool party

but not having a swimsuit and keeping all of my clothes on while everyone else is half naked

and being vulnerable and I'm not. So that was a bit awkward but almost immediately I was drawn

into a fascinating and small talk free conversation with today's guest. Her name was Amanda Montel.

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