Hello and welcome back to Chasing Excellence, the show about chasing which really matters.

My name is Patrick Cummings. Thank you so very much for tuning in to the show and happy new year

to you, specifically you, not everybody else, just you. This time around we're doing a little piggyback

off of the episode we did on Monday, Tuesday, not Monday, Tuesday. We ran a talk that Ben gave at a seminar recently about the, what we called in,

at least in that version of it, the storytelling continuum.

And as I was putting that episode together, I remembered a conversation that Ben and I had,

not too long ago, a couple months ago, inside of the Chase Club book club.

The Chase Club is our

premium membership. You can find out more at chasingexcellance. Email. Part of that Chase

Club is what we call the Chase Club Book Club. And one of the books we read this year was Build

the Life You Want by Arthur Brooks and Oprah. And in part of our conversation about that book, Ben and I talked

about a bit from the book relating or thinking about hope and the importance of hope.

And so we ended up talking about hope as it relates to the storytelling continuum or the

mindset continuum that we talk about here often. I thought it was a nice little

added nuance to the talk that Ben gave at that mindful athlete seminar. Before we get into it,

it's a very short episode, you'll notice. It's a very short episode. So I'm going to say thanks to

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