Hey friends, welcome to Job with Julie. I am Julie Slattery, and this podcast is an outreach of

authentic intimacy, a ministry dedicated to helping you make sense of God and sexuality.

Today, we are going to tackle the topic of men. As a culture, we seem to be really struggling

with a concept of what healthy manhood

is supposed to look like. My guest today is Brant Hansen. He's the author of a book called

The Men We Need. Brandt argues that it's easy to point out what men are doing wrong, but it's a

lot harder to construct a healthy, compelling vision for what it looks like to get

masculinity right. And that's exactly what he sets out to do. In this conversation, we talk about

why men are so confused about their purpose, how commitment creates meaning, and why true

masculinity is about becoming someone who protects the vulnerable

and helps others flourish. Whether you're a man trying to figure out your purpose or you're

married to a man or maybe you're raising one, this conversation is going to offer clarity and

really a great vision for what men can become. And I know many of you listening right now are women,

and this is an important conversation for us too. I mean, let's face it, we have men in our

lives, husbands, brothers, sons, friends who we influence. And if we have a wrong vision or

maybe no vision for God's design for masculinity, well, that impacts how we interact with

them. So grab your coffee and let's dive into my conversation with Brand Hanson.

All right. Well, Brand, you have written a book that we talked about on a previous episode called

Unoffendable.

And now we're going to enter into a topic where I think a lot of people can be offended.

So it was good that you sort of had the segue of how do we talk about this in a way that isn't offensive.

But we are going to talk about manhood, masculinity.

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