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The Lawfare Podcast

Culper Partners Rule of Law Series: Jamie Gorelick

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4.76.4K Ratings

🗓️ 8 May 2019

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

In this sixth episode of the special Culper Partners Rule of Law Series, David Kris and Nate Jones speak with former Deputy Attorney General Jamie Gorelick.

Jamie has had a career spanning the legal, policy, and corporate worlds, in and out of government. Currently a partner at WilmerHale, she has represented corporations and individuals in a wide array of matters, particularly in the regulatory and enforcement arenas. In government, she was one of the longest serving Deputy Attorneys General of the United States. Prior to that, she was the General Counsel at the Department of Defense. She serves and has served on numerous government boards and commissions, including the Defense Policy Board, and she was a member of the 9/11 Commission.

Jamie speaks with David and Nate about her years of experience as a lawyer in government and the private sector. She talks about the shame of current attacks on the rule of law and prosecutorial independence, her self-described "hawkish" views on when it's appropriate for the news media to publish classified information, and she describes a time when she was involved in a major dispute involving whether and to what extent the FBI should brief the White House on efforts by a foreign government to influence U.S. elections.

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Also, check out LawFair's other podcast offerings, rational security, chatter, LawFair

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no bull and the aftermath.

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It's very fundamental to our democracy that the president is elected by the people and

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has the power and authority to control the executive branch.

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On the other hand, there are norms that have grown up around that authority that should

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limit it.

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I'm David Chris and I'm Nate Jones and this is the Culper Partners Rule of Law Special

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Series on the LawFair podcast.

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In this podcast series, we explore the rule of law, particularly as it relates to US national

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security and criminal law enforcement.

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Our guest today is Jamie Garellick.

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Jamie has had a career spanning the legal policy and corporate worlds in and out of government.

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Currently a partner at Wilmer Hale, she has represented corporations and individuals in

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a wide array of matters, particularly in the regulatory and enforcement arenas.

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In government, she was one of the longest serving deputy attorneys general of the United

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States.

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Prior to that, she was the general counsel at the Department of Defense.

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She serves and has served on numerous government boards and commissions, including the Defense

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Policy Board and she was a member of the 9-11 Commission.

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