Bonus Edition: Jim Baker on the Russia Investigation
The Lawfare Podcast
The Lawfare Institute
4.7 • 6.4K Ratings
🗓️ 10 May 2019
⏱️ 87 minutes
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Summary
On May 10, the Brookings Institution hosted a public conversation between former FBI General Counsel Jim Baker, who is now the Director of National Security and Cybersecurity at the R Street Institute, and Brookings Senior Fellow Benjamin Wittes. The conversation was recorded live as a Bonus Edition of the Lawfare Podcast. The conversation covered how the FBI thought about the Russia investigation in those fateful months both before and after the president fired FBI Director James Comey. How did the president’s conduct toward the bureau impact the institution? How does it affect career public servants like Baker? And how does Baker feel now about the president and his conduct after reading the Mueller report?
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| 0:00.0 | The following podcast contains advertising to access an ad-free version of the LawFair |
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| 0:27.3 | and the aftermath. |
| 0:30.7 | I'm Benjamin Wittis and this is the LawFair podcast May 10th, 2019. |
| 0:37.9 | It's a special bonus edition this morning, Jim Baker, former general counsel of the FBI |
| 0:44.3 | and now the director of national security and cybersecurity at the R Street Institute |
| 0:50.2 | in Washington. |
| 0:51.6 | According to Brookings and had a lengthy discussion with me in the institution's folk auditorium, |
| 1:00.2 | we talked about the Russia investigation, how it was predicated, the investigative steps |
| 1:06.5 | within it and why they were taken, and whether he stands by them. |
| 1:11.3 | We talked about the criticisms the Bureau has taken. |
| 1:14.8 | We talked about the attacks on him by the president of the United States and we talked |
| 1:20.1 | about why despite all this, he refuses to hate the president. |
| 1:25.5 | It's the LawFair podcast, a special live recorded edition, Jim Baker on the Russia investigation. |
| 1:33.9 | Good morning. |
| 1:36.4 | Welcome to the Brookings institution for those of you who don't know me. |
| 1:39.4 | My name is Benjamin Wittis, senior fellow here and the editor of LawFair and this is |
| 1:45.2 | among other things, a live recording of the LawFair podcast. |
| 1:50.7 | So let me just welcome you here with the art trademark on Benjamin Wittis and this is |
| 1:56.7 | the LawFair podcast. |
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