I expect a lot of you will know Dr Hannah Fry.

She's always a popular figure in number five videos, and she's also been here on the podcast before,

talking about her life and research.

But what you might not know is that in 2018, she hosted a special program on the BBC

all about pandemics.

The show told us of a looming crisis.

It even foretold a spiky-looking flu virus that would mutate, start in Southeast Asia,

and spread through the world with astonishing speed and devastating effect.

It would take lives and alter our way of life.

It wasn't a matter of if, but when. Two years later, and unfortunately the BBC and Hannah have

been making, well, a sequel of sorts, and this time, it's for real. Today, Hannah's sharing some of

her thoughts about the current pandemic and why innocent

mathematicians will probably end up getting some of the blame.

Hannah, last week I had hoped to be in London filming a number file video with you and instead

I'm stuck at home and I believe you're sitting in a car.

This is what our lives have become. Tell me why you're in a car.

Because my children are, well, they're making my life extremely difficult. I mean, they're very

lovely. And I think in a lot of ways, I'm very lucky that lockdown is made easier by their joyful

laughter. Yeah. Unfortunately, it's simultaneously made much more difficult by their unjoyful screaming.

They don't appreciate studio discipline. They just don't, they don't have any respect. They don't have

any respect for this kind of,

this kind of output, really, and, you know. So the car has become like your home office, has it?

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