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Welcome to the Eric Matexas show with your host Eric Matexas

We're going to play for you a really fascinating conversation that I had about a week ago at the

end of our B. Endalus. It was about critical race theory and social justice and biblical justice and it was extremely informative.

A lot of people praised and I said we got to put it on the program. So it's a panel I did with Voti, B.A.C.M. Jr. and Charlie Kirk and the

moderator's Owen Strahn. Here it is. Thank you all for being here. My name is Owen Strahn. I have a new book coming out with

a book called Christianity and Wokeness and I'll be signing a few of those. After the panel I'm a provost and professor of theology at Grace Bible

Theological Seminary in Conway, Arkansas. So that's what I do to pay the bills on a daily basis and a long time supporter of

Salem. So thankful for Ed Asinger and Stu Epperson, Rich Riddle and so many others who have done heroic work in the public square and

are beyond to strengthen so many. So it's a joy to be the host and moderator of this panel. I have quite a task ahead of me because the

three gentlemen joining me are all very gifted and will have much to say on the subject of biblical justice and social justice. The first person I'd like to welcome is Voti

Bacchum. Voti Bacchum is the Dean. Yes. Thank you. He is the Dean of Theology at African Christian University in Zambia and a prolific author just

published the book, Fault Lines with Salem Books, a bestseller and man such an important voice. So thank you for being here on the

panel. Next up we have Charlie Kirk. Join me in welcoming Charlie Kirk to the stage. Charlie is the founder of

Turning Point USA which has played such an important role in especially winning over many millennials and younger people to the

conservative cause. If he ever does a rap CD he could call himself young Buckley maybe. So we're thankful to have Charlie on the panel and he's also

of course at Salem Radio Network host with the Charlie Kirk show. And last but not least Eric Mataxus joined me in welcoming Eric Mataxus to the

stage. Eric of course is the host of the Eric Mataxus show bestselling author of Bonhoeffer and numerous books famous of course for throwing down right in front of

President Obama some years ago about the need to be pro-life just a glorious public moment and a very important figure in the public

squares. So gentlemen welcome to the panel. Thank you for being here and let's dive in. We're talking about biblical justice and social justice and to kick it off. I want to ask you about your

personal engagement with these subjects but first VOD if you could give us a working definition of each of the distinction between social

justice and biblical justice. Social justice is is distributive justice it's redistributive justice it's based on the idea of equity not equality but equity equal outcomes. So social

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