Crowd or Christ
AMEN PODCAST
Alex and Lokelani Wilson
5.0 • 2.1K Ratings
🗓️ 28 January 2026
⏱️ 47 minutes
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Summary
Pilate, Cancel Culture, and the Blood of Jesus | Matthew 27:19-26
They wanted Jesus DEAD. But why?
In this episode, we're breaking down one of the most intense moments in Scripture—Jesus standing trial before Pilate. You'll see how cancel culture isn't new (it's been around for 2,000+ years), how fear makes us follow the crowd instead of God, and why Pilate's attempt to "wash his hands" of Jesus reveals something dark about all of us.
We also dive into: ✓ Why the crowd chose a murderer over the Messiah ✓ How you become what you consume (and why that matters) ✓ What it means that Jesus took Barabbas's cross (and yours) ✓ The only thing that can truly wash away our sins
KEY TIMESTAMPS: 0:00 - Intro 2:33 - Street League & Pilate's Impossible Position 5:55 - Pilate's Wife's Warning Dream 7:14 - The Enemy Influencing the Crowd 10:10 - Calling for Barabbas Instead of Jesus 11:10 - You Are Barabbas 13:54 - Cancel Culture 2,000 Years Ago 16:08 - Different Crowd or Same Crowd? 17:57 - Jesus Doesn't Trust His Heart to Men 21:59 - You Become What You Consume 24:11 - "His Blood Be On Us and Our Children" 27:55 - Jesus Never Changed His Mind 32:34 - After the Amen Q&A
AFTER THE AMEN QUESTION: In what ways do you need to follow God instead of following the crowd?
ABOUT AMEN PODCAST: We're Alex and Lokelani, pastors of House Church in Kauai, Hawaii. We create biblical content for young Christians (18-30) who want theology that's deep but accessible. We preach verse-by-verse through Scripture because faithfulness > fame.
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| 0:00.0 | cancellation is not a new thing. Two thousand years ago, they were blood thirsty for cancellation. |
| 0:07.3 | And today, the crowd is still the same, whether it be the crowd in the church, the crowd outside |
| 0:11.9 | the church, the crowd of the culture. We always have loved to see people get canceled. Why? |
| 0:18.4 | It makes us feel good about ourselves. We compare ourselves against the person getting canceled. And we think, hey, if you're being canceled, then I must be |
| 0:25.2 | all right. I'm not as bad. There's people out there have done despicable stuff, evil stuff, |
| 0:30.6 | and they deserve to lose their platform. I would go so far to say that because of our sinful hearts |
| 0:35.6 | and us being brought forth an iniquity, |
| 0:37.8 | none of us deserve platforms at a whole. But with that said, if we look at someone getting |
| 0:43.6 | canceled without any ounce of grace, what we're saying is we're actually better than this person. |
| 0:49.3 | And that's definitely not true. All of us need grace and all of us deserve to be canceled. And yet they call for the only one who doesn't deserve to be canceled, Christ, to be canceled, to be crucified. Amen. |
| 1:04.1 | Aloha, and welcome back to Amen podcast. I'm Lockelaani. And today we're looking at Matthew 27 versus 19 through 26, and this passage shows us |
| 1:14.5 | one of the most sobering moments in human history, which is the trial of Jesus before Pilot. |
| 1:21.9 | You're going to see Pilate's wife warning him in a dream, Pilot trying to wash his hands clean |
| 1:27.1 | of responsibility, |
| 1:28.6 | and the crowd choosing a murderer named Barabbas over the son of God. |
| 1:33.8 | It's a passage that exposes the depth of human sin and the sovereignty of God working through |
| 1:38.7 | it all. What we're witnessing here isn't just a tragic miscarriage of justice. |
| 1:44.1 | It's a defined plan of redemption unfolding exactly as God ordained. |
| 1:49.1 | Every person in this scene from Pilate to the priests to the crowd is acting according to their |
| 1:54.7 | sinful nature, yet God is orchestrating the greatest act of love the world has ever known. |
| 2:02.7 | This isn't just ancient history. |
| 2:09.7 | This is about us. Our sin put Jesus on that cross in God. In his sovereignty and mercy, |
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