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The Carlat Psychiatry Podcast

Crossing the Alphabet Divide: An Integrative Overview of BPD Treatments with Dr. Kenneth Levy

The Carlat Psychiatry Podcast

Pocket Psychiatry: A Carlat Podcast

Alternative Health, Medicine, Health & Fitness, Mental Health

4.7524 Ratings

🗓️ 20 November 2025

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Kenneth Levy provides an overview of the major evidence-based treatments for Borderline Personality Disorder and explains why clinicians shouldn’t limit themselves to just one model. Despite their different styles, these treatments share core elements and similar effectiveness, and Dr. Levy makes the case that therapists best serve patients when they understand multiple approaches and remain flexible in how they use them.

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Carlat Psychiatry Podcast. This is an episode from the psychotherapy podcast team.

0:06.0

I'm your host, Abigail Rossel, and I'm honored to be joined today by Dr. Kenneth Levy, Ph.D.,

0:10.7

to kick off our multi-part series delving into borderline personality disorder.

0:19.0

Dr. Levy is a tenured professor in the Clinical Psychology Doctoral Program at the Pennsylvania State University, where he directs the laboratory for personality, psychopatology, and psychotherapy research.

0:29.6

He serves as an adjunct assistant professor of psychology and psychiatry at the Cornell Medical College, and is also a member of the Cornell's Personality Disorders Institute,

0:37.8

where he serves as a faculty fellow and an executive committee member. Dr. Levy has been both a

0:43.3

principal investigator and a co-principal investigator on many of the key projects of the PDI related

0:47.9

to borderline personality disorder over the last 10 years, and generally has played a really central

0:52.9

role in a lot of the groundbreaking research

0:55.0

that's been fundamental to how we conceptualize of borderline pathology and what we know of treatment

0:59.9

and treatment mechanisms today. So I'm very honored to have him here with us and to be able to kick

1:04.7

off our series with the very first episode titled Crossing the Alphabet Divide and Integrative

1:09.2

Overview of BPD Treatments.

1:17.9

We're excited to share that we've also created a companion article for this discussion that includes a CME post test that you can complete in order to earn CME credits.

1:22.6

That article is linked in the episode description and the podcast episode page on www.thecarlattereport.com.

1:36.1

Dr. Levy, welcome, and thank you so much for being here with us. Can you just start off by

1:40.8

briefly sharing a little bit about anything that I might have missed in terms of your background and your expertise in the area? First of all, thank you for having me. It's a great

1:49.8

pleasure to be here in an honor. I don't know how much more I could say about my background. I

1:55.2

could tell a little bit about how I got interested in borderline personality disorder, started as a mental

2:00.4

health worker working in an

2:02.0

inpatient unit and being exposed to people who were struggling with the kinds of issues that are

2:09.2

typical of people who are grappling with what we call borderline personality disorder and wanting to understand and be helpful

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