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Cross-Country: The Murders of Josh Niles & Amber Washburn

True Crime Campfire

True Crime Campfire

True Crime, History, Society & Culture

4.71.6K Ratings

🗓️ 27 March 2026

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

If you’re unlucky, you might have at least one person in your life who just drives you crazy, someone with whom every interaction has an edge of mutual antipathy, that makes you feel like you’re always on the brink of a screaming argument. Sometimes two particular human beings just do not fit together. And because human beings are strange, sometimes a couple like that hook up and stay together for years before finally spinning apart. But that undercurrent of anger can remain, a little toxic flame that doesn’t need much fuel to erupt into an inferno that destroys lives. Tickets are on sale now for CrimeWave 2.0! Visit crimewaveatsea.com/CAMPFIRE to get your discount code for $100 off your cabin and a private meet-and-greet with us! The cruise is Feb. 8-12, 2027, from Ft. Lauderdale to the Bahamas. Join us for Wet Hot Bad Magic Summer Camp 2026 in Equinunk, PA! September 10-13. Visit badmagicproductions.com for more info, and to buy tickets. Sources: Fatal Vows S7E4, “Hell on Wheels” Dateline S28E3, “The Plan” Snapped: Killer Couples, S13E4, “Charlene Childers and Timothy Dean” https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2019/10/12/what-dateline-didnt-tell-you-tim-dean-charlene-childers/3917826002/ https://www.democratandchronicle.com/in-depth/news/2019/10/10/tim-dean-sodus-ny-double-murder-sunray-texas-police-chief-dateline-nbc-the-plan/1356990001/ https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2019/10/10/charlene-childers-dateline-nbc-the-plan-sodus-ny-double-murder/3910812002/ https://www.democratandchronicle.com/in-depth/news/2019/10/10/double-murder-sodus-ny-of-josh-niles-amber-washburn-children-dateline-nbc/1730190001/ Follow us, campers! Patreon (join to get all episodes ad-free, at least a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfire https://www.truecrimecampfirepod.com/ Facebook: True Crime Campfire Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/truecrimecampfire/?hl=en Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfire Email: truecrimecampfirepod@gmail.com MERCH! https://true-crime-campfire.myspreadshop.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello, campers, grab your marshmallows and gather around the true crime campfire.

0:04.8

We're your camp counselors. I'm Katie. And I'm Whitney. And we're here to tell you a true story

0:09.9

that is way stranger than fiction. We're roasting murderers and marshmallows around the true crime campfire.

0:18.6

If you're unlucky, you might have at least one person in your life who just drives you crazy,

0:24.6

someone with whom every interaction has an edge of mutual antipathy that makes you feel like

0:30.2

you're always on the brink of a screaming argument.

0:33.8

Sometimes two particular human beings just do not fit together.

0:39.3

And because human beings are strange, sometimes a couple like that hook up and stay together for years before finally spinning apart.

0:46.3

But that undercurrent of anger can remain, a little toxic flame that doesn't need much fuel to

0:52.0

erupt into an inferno that destroys lives.

0:55.8

This is cross-country, the murders of Josh Niles and Amber Washburn.

1:09.0

So, campers, for this one, were in SOTUS, New York, a little town of less than 2,000 people, close to the shores of Lake Ontario.

1:16.6

It was October 22, 2018, a beautiful fall day in this peaceful little corner of the Empire State.

1:24.6

Tiffany Thayer's two-year-old was being most insistent about what gummy bears,

1:29.5

so she took the kid into the kitchen to grab some before they headed out to the grocery store.

1:34.3

Through her kitchen window, she could see her neighbor, Josh Niles, talking to some guy

1:38.4

Tiffany didn't recognize. The conversation seemed intense, not friendly, but not argumentative, at least not yet.

1:46.8

Then Tiffany saw Josh's girlfriend, Amber, start to pull into the driveway with her window down.

1:52.8

She turned away to grab the gummy bears for her little one. A second later, she heard the sharp

1:57.6

crack of a gunshot and looked up in shock. She saw Josh grabbing at his own chest.

2:03.7

The man he'd been talking to had a gun in his hand. Amber had gotten the car in reverse and started

2:09.4

frantically pulling out of the driveway, but as she passed the man, he shot once through the open

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