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The Unspeakeasy With Meghan Daum

Critical Race Theory Is Making Our Heads Explode: Erec Smith Sifts Through The Pieces

The Unspeakeasy With Meghan Daum

Meghan Daum

Society & Culture

4.7855 Ratings

🗓️ 11 July 2021

⏱️ 93 minutes

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Summary

Critical Race Theory, or CRT, is everywhere all of a sudden. Having made its way from academia to K-12 education, it came to the attention of the Trump Administration last year and quickly became a bogeyman of the political right. From there, state legislatures began crafting bills that would ban the "divisive concepts" allegedly embedded in CRT-based curriculum. But the bills have only added to public confusion over what CRT really means and partisan media coverage has whipped up the whole debate into something resembling a moral panic. _   Dr. Erec Smith is a professor of Rhetoric and Composition at York College of Pennsylvania and has written extensively about race and its role in pedagogy and public debate. He talked with Meghan about the origins of CRT, when it can be useful, how it's often misapplied and, above all, how most of what's got people so upset these days has little to do with CRT in the first place.     Guest Bio: Erec Smith is an Associate Professor of Rhetoric at York College of Pennsylvania and focuses primarily on the rhetorics of anti-racist activism, theory, and pedagogy. He is a co-founder of Free Black Thought, a website dedicated to highlighting viewpoint diversity within the black intelligentsia. His latest book is A Critique of Anti-racism in Rhetoric and Composition: The Semblance of Empowerment.

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0:00.0

This is a business, you know, and the last thing you want, if you have a burgeoning business,

0:08.9

is to have the impetus for that business to go away.

0:12.0

You have to have racism in order to make money fight your racism.

0:15.7

You have to have racism in order to have what even Kendi claims he wants,

0:21.1

which is a department of

0:22.9

anti-racism, as another branch

0:24.9

of government. So in order

0:26.9

to justify another branch

0:28.7

of government, you know,

0:30.9

you have to maintain

0:32.9

the reason why that branch of government

0:35.0

came up in the first place. In order

0:36.8

to have a department of

0:38.1

anti-racism, you need racism. And a good way to guarantee that is to make sure racism is

0:46.3

everywhere. Welcome to the unspeakable podcast. I'm your host, Megan Dome. So if you've been paying any

0:57.8

attention to the news lately, you have heard the term critical race theory or CRT. I'd also

1:04.6

surmise that even if you have been paying very close attention to the news, you're still not

1:09.5

sure what critical race theory means.

1:12.6

So in a tiny nutshell, let's just say that it's a framework for thinking about the way race

1:18.5

intersects with legal systems and other institutions in such a way that there's a persistent

1:23.5

fundamental inequality in society. This idea was first written and talked about in the 1990s, and until recently, it was

1:31.1

mostly confined to esoteric academic discussions.

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