You're listening to the SSPX podcast, and welcome to episode 20 of the crisis in the church series.

Today, we'll continue our look at the Second Vatican Council, this time looking at the second

and third sessions in 1963 and 1964. We'll see how the liberal Rhine Group continued their

full-on assault of the preparations for the council, and how they gained an ally in the newly

elected Pope Paul VI, who cleared the way for even more of their work to go on unhindered. We'll also take a

moment to discover the problem with the Second Vatican Council documents. At first glance, many of them

seem quite orthodox, but these documents were both blatantly ambiguous and also hiding what

would become known as neo-modernist time bombs. We'll see what that all means,

and what effect this will have on the Holy Catholic Church today on the SSPX podcast.

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Now we'll turn to our conversation with Father McGilvery.

Welcome back to the SSPX podcast in our next section on the crisis in the church series.

And we are now into our second episode with Father McGilvery about the course of the Second Vatican Council.

Hello, Father. How are you today?

Very well, thanks. And how are you, Andrew?

Doing well, thank you. And we finished last episode with a look at what happened between

the first session and the second session. Most notably, John the 23rd passes away.

Pope Paul the 6th is elected in June, and then we have the second session of the Second

Vatican Council starting up in the fall of 1963. Is that kind of our quick synopsis of where we are?

Exactly. That's just it. The German bishops, of course, have been preparing

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