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And I am joined by Lawrence Mower, not Mower, Mower, I got that right, who works for the

Tampa Bay Times and has a really important news break up.

It was yesterday.

The post followed it today, the Washington Post followed it today.

But he and his wife have been on top of this storyline from the jump. It involves Ron DeSantis, Casey DeSantis, potential Medicare fraud or Medicaid fraud, I should say. And the possibility that their futures in politics are jeopardized by all this.

Lawrence, thanks for joining us.

I do appreciate it.

Before we get into it, subscribe to the feed for those who are watching.

When I talk to your wife, I think there was a couple weeks ago, this scandal was kind of

just coming to the surface, and I do want you to kind of give us the Cliff Snott's version of

it.

But the story today is that

a investigation has been launched into this Hope Florida Fund, which is Casey DeSantis's

initiative to essentially provide services that are traditionally done by the government

for a social safety net to do them through

things like churches. So let's start with the breaking news and then let's get into how we got to

this place. What is the actual breaking news? Yeah, the breaking news is that there's actually now

a criminal investigation underway, at least involving the Leon County State Attorney's

Office.

That's the State Attorney that covers Tallahassee.

It covers pretty much all of state government up here.

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