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Criminal Justice and "The Vanishing Trial"

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4.5979 Ratings

🗓️ 23 February 2021

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Why do so few defendants get their day in court? Kevin Ring of FAMM discusses The Vanishing Trial. You may also host a screening of the film.

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0:00.0

This is the Kader Daily Podcast for Tuesday, February 23rd, 2021.

0:07.5

I'm Caleb Brown.

0:08.5

A tiny fraction of criminal charges are resolved at trial that has implications for the process of

0:14.2

criminal justice. The Vanishing Trial is a film produced by families against

0:19.1

mandatory minimums. I spoke with Kevin Ring of Fam about about the vanishing trial and what they hope to

0:25.0

accomplish by detailing what it means for defendants to never get their day in

0:29.7

court. Yeah the vanishing trials a documentary we made last year because we wanted to bring attention to the fact that

0:39.4

mandatory minimums are contributing to a system where less than 3% of people today, 3% of defendants,

0:45.6

exercise their constitutional right to trial.

0:48.4

So for people who aren't familiar with it, the trial penalty is the difference you get if you take a plea and cooperate with the government,

0:57.2

the sentence you can get, versus the sentence you'll get if you assert your constitutional

1:01.7

right to trial and lose at that trial.

1:05.0

Usually the difference is a matter of years and sometimes decades.

1:10.0

And the problem with that is if you're threatened with 20, 30 years in prison, you're going to be more likely to give up your constitutional right to trial.

1:19.0

And that's what we're seeing.

1:21.0

And the reason that happens is because mandatory sentences allow the prosecutor to not

1:26.1

only threaten you with a long sentence, but then to carry out that threat. Because if you get

1:30.6

convicted of a crime that carries a mandatory sentence, the judge has no discretion.

1:35.0

So this film, instead of just talking about it, we show you four instances where the trial penalty was applied and what that did to these people, their families, to justice,

1:47.7

what the result was.

1:50.0

And in those stories, you see how unfair it is.

1:53.7

So when criminal defense lawyers are facing this problem, obviously they sort of build all of

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