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Choiceology with Katy Milkman

Creatures of Habit: With Guests Wendy Wood, Angela Duckworth & Stephan Kesting

Choiceology with Katy Milkman

Charles Schwab

Investing, Social Sciences, Behavioral Economics, Science, Society & Culture, Decision Making, Charles Schwab, Dan Heath, Business, Katy Milkman

4.71.5K Ratings

🗓️ 18 November 2019

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Benjamin Franklin is one of the most revered figures in American history. He accomplished more in one lifetime--as a publisher, scientist, and politician--than most of us dream of. One argument for his success is that he was a creature of habit. His grueling daily schedule focused on repeating several habits of self-improvement. He hoped to achieve a perfect version of himself by automating certain positive behaviors. Whether or not he always stuck to his daily schedule of self-improvement is debatable, but his intuition about the importance of habit was right on the money. In this episode of Choiceology with Katy Milkman, we look at the power of habit in shaping our behavior--for the better and for the worse. We begin with firefighter Stephan Kesting. Stephan takes us through several of the drills that firefighters repeat over and over again in order to internalize certain behaviors. These behaviors can save lives in disaster scenarios. Stephan’s preparedness was put to the test early in his career when he and his team were called to a massive fire. You’ll hear how habits developed through intense training made all the difference in a life-or-death rescue operation. Stephan Kesting is an officer in the Delta Fire Department in Delta, British Columbia. He is also a black belt instructor in Brazilian jiu-jitsu. To look at the science behind habit, Katy invited two top scholars to share their insights into this phenomenon. First, Wendy Wood explains why we have habits, how they’re formed, and the reasons they’re often difficult to change. Wendy Wood is the Provost Professor of Psychology and Business at Dornsife College at the University of Southern California. She’s also the author of the new book Good Habits, Bad Habits: The Science of Making Positive Changes That Stick. Next, you’ll hear from Angela Duckworth on how habits relate to self-control and persistence. She offers strategies that leverage the power of habit to help mitigate self-control challenges. Angela Duckworth is the Christopher H. Browne Distinguished Professor of Psychology at the University of Pennsylvania and the author of Grit: The Power of Passion and Perseverance.

Transcript

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See if any of this feels familiar. You wake up in the morning, you unplug your phone from the charger and check the weather, and social media.

0:16.0

And maybe a quick YouTube video.

0:18.0

No, no, no, no, no.

0:20.0

Now fast forward.

0:22.0

Let's say you're waiting for your morning train into work.

0:25.0

It's delayed. So you check your phone again.

0:29.0

And your high school friend posted a cute picture of their son's soccer game, but nothing too exciting.

0:35.0

Then you get on the train and 10 minutes into the trip you check your phone again.

0:40.0

A couple of interesting headlines.

0:43.0

You get into the office,

0:49.0

you get into the office, you get settled,

0:52.0

and you have a conference call in five minutes.

0:54.0

But you decide to check your phone again.

0:57.0

A couple of fun tweets, but no new alerts.

1:00.0

You grab a quick lunch at a nearby cafe and you check your phone.

1:05.0

Big concert announcement from an artist you love.

1:08.0

You make a note to grab tickets.

1:10.0

You're in a long afternoon meeting. You check your phone a couple of times for the latest sports

1:15.9

scores. Now you're back home.

1:25.0

Fast forward to bedtime. You settle in for the night, plug your phone in,

1:28.0

set the alarm app, and then you decide to check it just one last time

1:32.8

to see if you missed anything.

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