Creator of AI: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! These Jobs Won't Exist in 24 Months!

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett

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🗓️ 18 December 2025

⏱️ 102 minutes

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AI pioneer YOSHUA BENGIO, Godfather of AI, reveals the DANGERS of Agentic AI, killer robots, and cyber crime, and how we MUST build AI that won’t harm people…before it’s too late. Professor Yoshua Bengio is a Computer Science Professor at the Université de Montréal and one of the 3 original Godfathers of AI. He is the most-cited scientist in the world on Google Scholar, a Turing Award winner, and the founder of LawZero, a non-profit organisation focused on building safe and human-aligned AI systems. He explains: ◼️Why agentic AI could develop goals we can’t control ◼️How killer robots and autonomous weapons become inevitable ◼️The hidden cyber crime and deepfake threat already unfolding ◼️Why AI regulation is weaker than food safety laws ◼️How losing control of AI could threaten human survival [00:00] Why Have You Decided to Step Into the Public Eye? [02:53] Did You Bring Dangerous Technology Into the World? [05:23] Probabilities of Risk [08:18] Are We Underestimating the Potential of AI? [10:29] How Can the Average Person Understand What You're Talking About? [13:40] Will These Systems Get Safer as They Become More Advanced? [20:33] Why Are Tech CEOs Building Dangerous AI? [22:47] AI Companies Are Getting Out of Control [24:06] Attempts to Pause Advancements in AI [27:17] Power Now Sits With AI CEOs [35:10] Jobs Are Already Being Replaced at an Alarming Rate [37:27] National Security Risks of AI [43:04] Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) [44:44] Ads [48:34] The Risk You're Most Concerned About [49:40] Would You Stop AI Advancements if You Could? [54:46] Are You Hopeful? [55:45] How Do We Bridge the Gap to the Everyday Person? [56:55] Love for My Children Is Why I’m Raising the Alarm [01:00:43] AI Therapy [01:02:43] What Would You Say to the Top AI CEOs? [01:07:31] What Do You Think About Sam Altman? [01:09:37] Can Insurance Companies Save Us From AI? [01:12:38] Ads [01:16:19] What Can the Everyday Person Do About This? [01:18:24] What Citizens Should Do to Prevent an AI Disaster [01:20:56] Closing Statement [01:22:51] I Have No Incentives [01:24:32] Do You Have Any Regrets? [01:27:32] Have You Received Pushback for Speaking Out Against AI? [01:28:02] What Should People Do in the Future for Work? Follow Yoshua: LawZero - https://bit.ly/44n1sDG Mila - https://bit.ly/4q6SJ0R Website - https://bit.ly/4q4RqiL You can purchase Yoshua’s book, ‘Deep Learning (Adaptive Computation and Machine Learning series)’, here: https://amzn.to/48QTrZ8 The Diary Of A CEO: ◼️Join DOAC circle here - https://doaccircle.com/ ◼️Buy The Diary Of A CEO book here - https://smarturl.it/DOACbook ◼️The 1% Diary is back - limited time only - https://bit.ly/3YFbJbt ◼️The Diary Of A CEO Conversation Cards (Second Edition) - https://g2ul0.app.link/f31dsUttKKb ◼️Get email updates - https://bit.ly/diary-of-a-ceo-yt ◼️Follow Steven - https://g2ul0.app.link/gnGqL4IsKKb Sponsors: Wispr - Get 14 days of Wispr Flow for free at https://wisprflow.ai/DOAC Pipedrive - https://pipedrive.com/CEO Rubrik - To learn more, head to https://rubrik.com

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0:00.0	If you've ever worked in a startup, you already know it's chaos. It's speed and it is survival.
0:04.9	And now with AI accelerating everything, that speed has only increased. Startups are landing enterprise
0:09.5	deals even earlier than before, but what comes with those deals is regulatory requirements,
0:14.9	something a lot of early stage businesses aren't equipped to handle. And a SOC too, if you know what
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0:56.9	And the bigger win, your peace of mind. You're one of the three godfathers of AI, the most cited
1:04.2	scientist on Google Scholar, but I also read that you're an introvert. It begs the question,
1:08.3	why have you decided to step out of your introversion?
1:11.7	Because I have something to say. I've become more hopeful that there is a technical solution
1:16.1	to build AI that will not harm people and could actually help us. Now, how do we get there?
1:21.3	Well, I have to say something important here.
1:23.7	Professor Yoshua Benjiio is one of the pioneers of AI, whose groundbreaking research earned him the most prestigious honor in computer science.
1:31.8	He's now sharing the urgent next steps that can determine the future of our world.
1:35.9	Is it fair to say that you're one of the reasons that this software exists?
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