for 99% of human history we've been hunted gatherers.

So this is deeply wired into our psyche, isn't it,

and into our biology.

So our need to belong, you know, think this is something that's just

critically important, is that for all of our history, I would say, including now, if you are alone, you won't survive, Your health will be seriously compromised. For most of our history that would have been fatal.

And so that need to belong, that survival instinct that we all have, that was part of a band of people

and the band had a leader. So the leader's fundamental job was to take care of people.

That was their fundamental job. That's why our groups of humans existed.

So when we think of it like that, why is that not obvious to us today? Why do we feel that we can go in pursuit of outcomes and sacrifice people and damage people along the way. Okay, welcome back or welcome to the Finding Mastery Podcast.

I'm Michael Jervay, and by Trade and Training, I am a sport and

performance psychologist, and the whole idea behind this podcast, behind these

conversations, is to learn from people who are committed to the path of mastery.

What does that mean? It means that they're digging deep to understand the truth, the nuances, the essence of themselves, other people, or their craft.

And what we're trying to do is understand how do they use their mind to excel?

How do they use their mind to stay true to themselves? And how do they use their mind to stay true to themselves?

And how do they use their mind to be able to advance human potential?

I know that sounds lofty, but that's really what the center of this thing is about.

And, you know, the gold dust around here is that we also get to learn

how they use specific mental skills

to build and refine their craft.

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