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Leading Saints Podcast

Creating the Experiences Youth Need | An Interview with Skyler Wilcox

Leading Saints Podcast

Leading Saints

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.81.2K Ratings

🗓️ 18 October 2025

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Skyler Wilcox is originally from Logan, Utah and is the senior administrator with the Especially For Youth (EFY) program. He has a bachelors degree in Broadcast Journalism and a masters degree in Public Administration, both from Brigham Young University. After working as a counselor and coordinator for four summers, Skyler joined the EFY team full time in 2020. When not at work, he enjoys cheering on his favorite sports teams, including the Jazz, Cougars, Cowboys, and Mammoth. He also loves musical theater and performing on stage. Skyler married his sweetheart Jenny and they have adopted four children through foster care. Previous Church callings include ward clerk, assistant executive secretary, youth Sunday School teacher, and elders quorum secretary.

Skyler Wilcox

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Highlights

Overview
The conversation centers on how EFY has successfully adapted its model after the Church’s 2019 announcement of FSY (For the Strength of Youth) and what principles leaders can use to create profound, testimony-building experiences for their own youth.

Key Insights
EFY’s New Focus on Specialized Experiences: EFY still exists but has transitioned from the traditional campus model to running specialized, experiential programs to complement FSY. These include Adventure sessions (like white water rafting and canyoning) and Church History tours, which are designed for youth who thrive in active, challenging, and outdoor learning environments.

Connection and Authenticity are Paramount: The most crucial need for youth today is genuine connection. Skyler emphasizes that leaders must be vulnerable and authentic, avoiding an overly enthusiastic or “rah-rah” persona that youth perceive as fake. This realness is key to building trust.

Teach the Gospel Directly: Leaders should not shy away from teaching the doctrines of Jesus Christ plainly and straightforwardly. Skyler asserts that youth are not only ready to hear the gospel as it is but actively need it to navigate the complexities of the modern world.

Fostering a Sense of Being Known: The new, smaller scale of EFY sessions cultivates a tight-knit environment where youth are known by their counselors as individuals, rather than just numbers in a large group. This personal attention fosters deeper, more impactful faith connections.

Inspiring Personal Revelation: Effective teaching is ultimately focused on pointing the youth back to their own personal study and experience. The best teachers share their own personal “aha moments” they’ve gained through scripture study, inspiring youth to develop the habit of seeking and receiving personal revelation for themselves.

Experiential Learning as a Faith Catalyst: Activities that are a little uncomfortable or risky (like completing a difficult outdoor challenge) create a “bank” of faith. Skyler notes these experiences teach youth they “can do hard things,” preparing them to rely on the Savior when facing future real-world challenges.

Leadership Applications
Be Genuine, Not Goofy: Rather than trying to be excessively “cool” or entertaining, leaders should focus on being authentic by finding moments to be vulnerable and share sincere experiences prompted by the Spirit, which naturally builds resonance with the youth.

Prioritize Love Over Doctrine: When encountering a youth who is disengaged or struggling, leaders should first ensure they are loving the youth unconditionally. This Christ-like love creates the lasting impact that will open the door for teaching another day, even if not everything can be taught at once.

Empower Young Adults: Recognizing the pivotal nature of the young adult years, leaders can look for opportunities to involve them in service and leadership. For instance, EFY has successfully expanded its counselor roles to include married couples, which strengthens the young adults’ own testimonies while giving the youth a powerful, Christ-centered marriage example.

The award-winning Leading Saints Podcast is one of the top independent Latter-day Saints podcasts as part of nonprofit Leading Saints’ mission to help Latter-day Saints be better prepared to lead. Find Leadership Tools, Courses, and Community for Latter-day Saint leaders in the Zion Lab community. Learn more and listen to any of the past episodes for free at LeadingSaints.org.

Past guests include Emily Belle Freeman, David Butler, Hank Smith, John Bytheway, Reyna and Elena Aburto, Liz Wiseman, Stephen M. R. Covey, Benjamin Hardy, Elder Alvin F. Meredith III, Julie Beck, Brad Wilcox, Jody Moore, Tony Overbay, John H. Groberg, Elaine Dalton, Tad R. Callister, Lynn G. Robbins, J. Devn Cornish, Bonnie Oscarson, Dennis B. Neuenschwander, Kirby Heyborne, Taysom Hill, Coaches Jennifer Rockwood and Brandon Doman, Anthony Sweat, John Hilton III, Barbara Morgan Gardner, Blair Hodges, Whitney Johnson, Ryan Gottfredson, Greg McKeown, Ganel-Lyn Condie, Michael Goodman, Wendy Ulrich, Richard Ostler, and many more in over 800 episodes.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

All right, here's our goal, folks. Leading Saints is no longer a podcast. Well, obviously, we are a podcast.

0:07.7

We will continue to podcast, but we're really shifting our focus over to Zion Lab, which is an online

0:13.6

community put on and developed by leading saints. And this is where we want to go and gather the masses

0:19.9

and share ideas about leadership,

0:22.3

share ideas about different calling, share ideas about building Zion. And this is the place

0:27.4

that we want to make online where all things are discussed, great ideas are shared, and that

0:32.0

we can help one another in whatever calling we're in or what calling we're not in to feel like,

0:37.3

you know, I've got purpose

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here. I can really make a difference in shifting culture in a better way or developing Zion in my

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own corner of the kingdom. So join us over at Zion Lab at LeadingSaints.org slash Zion. And there you can

0:49.9

just jump in. It's free to join and create a profile and jump in and look around and answer some

0:55.6

questions, leave a comment, pose a question. I think you'll benefit from the things we're doing

0:59.7

over at Zion Lab. So join us. Before we jump into the content of this episode, I kind of feel

1:07.3

it's important that I introduce myself. Now, many of you've been around a long time.

1:11.6

You're well familiar with my voice and with Leading Saints as an organization.

1:16.7

But if you're not, well, my name is Kurt Frankum, and I am the executive director of Leading

1:20.8

Saints and the podcast host.

1:22.7

Now, Leading Saints is a nonprofit organization dedicated helping Latter-day Saints be better prepared to lead.

1:28.8

And we do that through, well, content creation like this podcast and many other resources at leadingsaints.org.

1:34.5

And we don't act like we have all the answers or know exactly what a leader should do or not do.

1:40.6

But we like to explore the concepts of leadership, the science of leadership,

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what people are researching about leadership, and see how we can apply them to a Latter-day

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