Hello everybody, welcome to Pastor Rick's Daily Hope. This is the Bible teaching ministry of Rick Warren.

Hey, we're so glad you're here with us today. We are continuing in a series called Talking About Stuff That Matters.

Now, in this series, Rick looks into the scriptures, and he's unpacking what it means to live in community, have real conversation about what matters most, and face discouragement with courage and faith.

It's honest, hopeful, so stay tuned. You won't want to miss a second.

And right now, you're going to hear the final part of a message

called Creating Life Shaping Conversations. Now here's another major verse in Scripture on how to speak

effectively. Ephesians 429. Speak, the Bible says, only, there's that word again, speak only, this is the only way you're supposed to speak.

Speak only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs so that it may benefit those who listen.

He says the same thing four times in order to get the point across. He says,

speak only what's helpful. That's one. Speak only what builds others up. Speak only according to

their needs and speak only what will benefit those who listen. That's pretty clear. He says,

you start with them. Now, you're going to get to your hurt at some point. You're going to get with them. Now you're going to get to your hurt

at some point. You're going to get to your need. You're going to get to your frustration or your fear

or your failure or whatever it is in your life. But you don't start there. If you're smart,

if you're wise, if you're a wise woman, you're a wise mother,

a wise wife, or if you're a wise man, you're a wise husband, you're a wise dad, you don't

never start with you. You start with them in any crucial conversation. Speak what is helpful

building them up according to their need that would benefit those who listen.

Now, here's how you do this.

When you sit down in the conversation, you say, you go first.

And you just let them speak without any interruption.

You don't interrupt them.

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