Hey everyone this is Kurt Franklin with the leading Saints podcast I want to make it just a quick episode I'm just going to slip it in here on your feed and that and along with some future ones as well because we have a really important event coming up on

September 10th. Now the beauty of it is it's an event that's virtual so you can

attend this event from anywhere in the world and it is called the

Liberating Saints virtual summit where we have gathered 20 plus individuals, experts,

authors, medical doctors, therapists, really counselors. I mean there's so many diverse perspectives and really smart people that are part of this and I wanted to come with them with the question of how do we help these individuals who are just trapped in pornography that

struggle that wrestle with it that just can't seem to stop even though they want to

so bad and what came from this is some remarkable interviews and

discussions that we're going to make available

starting on September 10th. Now you do have to register for it, which you can do so by

going to leading Saints.org slash liberating and there you just click through and register and it's for free so you

can register for free to see each session day-to-day and you really don't want to

miss this now I want to share with you a clip from one of the many

interviews that we did and this clip is with Steve Shields and

Steve has become a really close friend ever since we first interviewed him and his wife,

man, maybe two years ago, about his experience he went through a time of sexual addiction

of being unfaithful to his wife and has come out of that and is currently excommunicated but he talks

about in this interview what that excommunication experience has been like for his recovery,

what's helped, what hasn't helped, especially in the context of the leaders that he's worked with.

And I really appreciate his candidness of being open to

this this difficult process because there's many leaders out there that are working

with individuals who've received a serious church discipline

and maybe don't know what to do or don't know how to help them when sometimes the process seems so long.

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