Crackpot Realism

The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

The Dispatch

Politics, News

4.6 • 6.3K Ratings

🗓️ 15 May 2025

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

Jonah Goldberg is joined by author and journalist Phil Tinline to discuss his new book, Ghosts of Iron Mountain: The Hoax of the Century, Its Enduring Impact, and What It Reveals About America Today. Phil tells the tale of conspiracies gone by, arguing that hoaxes, crackpottery, and moral panics are as American as apple pie. Show Notes:—Order Phil’s book, Ghosts of Iron Mountain: The Hoax of the Century, Its Enduring Impact, and What It Reveals About America Today. The Remnant is a production of The Dispatch, a digital media company covering politics, policy, and culture from a non-partisan, conservative perspective. To access all of The Dispatch’s offerings—including Jonah’s G-File newsletter, regular livestreams, and other members-only content—click here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:48.3	Can you digger? Greetings, dear listeners, this is Jonah Goldberg, host of the Remnant Podcast, brought to you by the Dispatch and Dispatch Media.
1:03.7	I can't tell you how much I've been looking forward to this episode about, I don't know, three weeks a month ago, I was listening to,
1:12.9	one of the only podcasts I pay for is the rest of history podcast,
1:17.4	so I can listen to the bonus episodes and ad free and all that.
1:22.5	So you're welcome, guys, for the free ad.
1:24.5	And they had Phil Tinline on to talk about his new book, Ghosts of Iron
1:31.3	Mountain, The Hoax of the Century, It's Enduring Impact, and what it reveals about America
1:36.2	today. And it was just a whirligig of things I'm interested in and themes that we've talked about
1:42.9	on here. And so I sent an email to my people and saying that we've talked about on here.
1:47.6	And so I sent an email to my people and saying, we got to get them on.
1:50.6	And it took a little while to arrange it because he's over there across the pond. Phil is a former BBC guy, and he's a journalist and author.
1:55.2	His last book, which was hailed, I think, is one of the best books of the year, was the death of consensus, 100 years of
2:03.5	British political nightmares, but we're here mostly to talk about ghosts of Iron Mountain and
2:08.6	various and sundry rabbit halls. So, Phil, welcome to the remnant. Thanks. And it's great to be here.
2:14.7	Thank you. Okay. So, as listeners know, the first question, as always,
2:18.4	with an author with a new book, is what's your book about? And you can take it about your
2:21.4	guys, it's a story. So you can have a little more oxygen than you normally would get on
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