Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, The divergent ways in which we can collectively respond to this crisis are exactly what is at stake, right?

We can have a response that is unsustainable. It will return things to the way

they were before the crisis, which made us so vulnerable to the death and destruction that it has caused

or we could after the pandemic completely reassess and recognize these are the policies and this is the way in which we need to be governing the way that we need to be living our lives and constructing a system that is actually sustainable and is a more caring society.

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Upstream. You are listening to upstream upstream.

Upstream. Upstream. Upstream.

I'm Della Duncan.

And I'm Robert Raymond.

Continuing our focus on the coronavirus pandemic and its intersection with capitalism. In this

conversation we speak with New York State Senator Hulius Salazar who

represents New York's 18th District in Northern Brooklyn,

which includes the neighborhoods of Bushwick, Cypress Hills, Greenpoint,

Williamsburg, and parts of Bedford-Stuyvesant, Brownsville and East New York.

This pandemic has hit New York City harder than any other city in the world,

and the neighborhoods represented by Senator Salazar are some of the hardest hit in New York City itself.

We spoke with the senator about the economics of the coronavirus pandemic and how she got into organizing, politics, and

democratic socialism. I would you introduce yourself for the listeners.

My name is Hulias Salasar.

I am the state senator. yourself for the listeners. My name is Hulius Al-Sar.

I am the state senator for New York's 18th state Senate district in Brooklyn.

I live in Bushwick in North Brooklyn, and I am a Democratic socialist and a member of the Democratic

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