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An Epidemic of Insecurity with Dr. Abdul El-Sayed

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Politics, News, Society & Culture

4.92.1K Ratings

🗓️ 7 April 2020

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

It's unfortunate that it's taking a global pandemic to reveal it, but the unprecedented crisis catalyzed by the coronavirus has exposed our capitalist economy for what it is: an economic system that puts profit over people (and the planet). This pandemic is an unprecedented event, but it's the sharpening of class divides, the gutting of our social safety net, and the mentality of selfish individualism encouraged by capitalism which have turned this pandemic into an unimaginable crisis. In this conversation we speak with Dr. Abdul El-Sayed about our current epidemic of insecurity and how it has unfolded through this current crisis. El-Sayed is a doctor, an epidemiologist, a candidate in Michigan's 2018 Democratic gubernatorial primary election, and the author of "Healing Politics, A Doctor's Journey Into the Heart of Our Political Epidemic," just out this month (April 2020). Senator Bernie Sanders has referred to El-Sayed as "One of the brightest young stars in the future of the progressive movement." 

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Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, When you think about this moment where we're facing a COVID pandemic, it's this

0:24.8

epidemic of insecurity that's laid the groundwork for the experience we have right now.

0:28.8

A, we stripped away the basic public services that we needed to protect us in the first place.

0:33.2

And then, you know, people are so vulnerable right now that even when we talk about

0:37.8

flattening the curve and social distancing to do that, a lot of people are choosing between

0:41.4

their lives and their livelihoods.

0:43.0

You are listening to upstream.

0:45.0

Upstream. Upstream. Upstream.

0:48.0

Upstream.

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I'm Dela Duncan.

0:50.0

And I'm Robert Raymond.

0:52.0

In this conversation we speak with Dr. Abdul L. Saeed, a doctor, epidemiologist,

0:58.0

candidate in Michigan's 2018 Democratic gubernatorial just came out in April 2020. This interview is part of a series of upstream conversations

1:16.2

about the coronavirus, capitalism, and potential systemic interventions and solutions

1:22.3

during this challenging time.

1:27.0

Welcome Dr. Abdul El Saeed to upstream, really happy to have you.

1:32.0

Yeah, excited to be on here.

1:33.0

Thank you so much for inviting me.

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I'm wondering if you wouldn't mind starting by telling us your personal journey

1:41.0

from being a doctor to an epidemiologist and then a political

1:45.2

candidate. How did you go about that journey and what have been your guiding

1:50.2

questions along the way? Yeah, I think you're right to ask about guiding questions. I grew up in

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