This is the Tom Hartman program.

Welcome to Tom Hartman here with you.

Our question for the day, how do we stop them from killing more people?

Them specifically I'm talking about Donald Trump and Jerry Bolsonaro.

The epicenter now for the world for this pandemic has moved from the United States to the United States and

Brazil.

We are the two countries where this thing is completely out of control and or largely out of

control.

And you know in the United States you could say state by state, but in Brazil it's like, whoa, it's totally out of control.

And these two guys are essentially refusing to do anything consequential about an epidemic

that is killing massive numbers of their own country's citizens.

And for this in my opinion, Bolsonaro and Trump should be brought before the

international criminal court at the Hague and charged with crimes against humanity.

What do you think?

I mean to compound the situation here,

Trump is now ridiculing people who wear masks,

including Joe Biden.

Wearing mask is one of the most simple, low-cost, effective ways to slow down the

spread of the pandemic and to reduce the number of dead people.

But Trump doesn't want to smear his makeup and so he's suggesting to his

insecure white male followers that wearing a mask somehow makes a man seem

less manly. He's also refusing to do anything about testing at the

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