Covid, Churches and the Frankfurt Declaration: Jamie Franklin & John Stevens debate Christian liberty and government overreach

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🗓️ 30 September 2022

⏱️ 88 minutes

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As the global pandemic subsides, the way the Covid lockdowns were implemented in churches still divides Christians. The Frankfurt Declaration has been signed by church leaders who are concerned that civil and religious liberties are being eroded by Government overreach. One of the signatories is Anglican priest Jamie Franklin, a co-host of the Irreverend podcast. He has been critical of the church's handling of Covid saying it fell into line with restrictions too readily. He discusses the issues with John Stevens of the Fellowship of Independent Evangelical Churches (FIEC) who believes that the government mandates were appropriate for what was known at the time. For Jamie Franklin: https://irreverendpod.com/ For John Stevens: https://fiec.org.uk/ • Subscribe to the Unbelievable? podcast: https://pod.link/267142101 • More shows, free eBook & newsletter: https://premierunbelievable.com • For live events: http://www.unbelievable.live • For online learning: https://www.premierunbelievable.com/training-and-events • Support us in the USA: http://www.premierinsight.org/unbelievableshow • Support us in the rest of the world: https://www.premierunbelievable.com/donate

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0:00.0	I think there's a lot spoken that seems to say if only church leaders were bolder, stronger,
0:12.6	and more forceful, government would do what they wanted.
0:15.3	I'm actually we weren't in that position at all.
0:17.9	We were in the position of government having made decisions that were going to be imposed.
0:22.4	They listened to our concerns, they listened to our objections, but in the main largely ignored
0:27.3	them.
0:28.3	We had our responsibility to engage our minds and also to open our bibles and to do our
0:33.5	theological reflection as well.
0:34.9	And if we're being told something that's highly questionable from an epistemic or an
0:39.0	epistemological perspective, we don't have to simply accept it just because it's being
0:43.8	told us by the government.
0:48.0	You're listening to unbelievable with Justin Briley.
0:53.4	Hello and welcome to today's show aiming to bring you as usual thoughtful conversations
0:57.8	on important subject bridging the Christian secular world today.
1:02.3	Did the church give away too much control to the government during COVID?
1:05.8	We're asking today and we'll be talking about the Frankfurt Declaration as well.
1:10.1	I'll introduce my guests in just a moment's time.
1:12.5	Lots of response to last week's show, a big panel discussion on church leadership and
1:17.0	abuse.
1:18.0	That's available over on our website via podcast and video if you want to check it out
1:21.2	again, premier unbelievable.com.
1:23.2	And I'll read out some of your thoughts towards the end of today's show and hear feedback
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