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Channels with Peter Kafka

Covering the war in Ukraine, online and on the ground

Channels with Peter Kafka

Vox Media Podcast Network

Business News, News, Tv & Film, Technology

4.4585 Ratings

🗓️ 3 March 2022

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Summary

Recode's Peter Kafka talks to three reporters about the realities of covering the war in Ukraine and sorting truth from disinformation -- from the ground, from afar, and online. In Ukraine: CNN’s Chief International Correspondent Clarissa Ward discusses the challenges of war reporting in 2022, everything from planning food and exit routes to working with a remote team to analyze online videos. In DC: Puck co-founder and Washington correspondent Julia Ioffe talk about how hard it is to learn what Russians think about what's going on, and how long she expects the war to hold the American people's interest. Finally, Jane Lytvynenko, a senior research fellow at Harvard's Shorenstein Center, gives us a crash course on Russia’s history of disinformation dissemination. She also tells us about Telegram, which essentially functions as “Eastern European Twitter." Featuring: Clarissa Ward (@clarissaward), Chief International Correspondent for CNN Julia Ioffe (@juliaioffe), Co-Founder and Washington Correspondent for Puck Jane Lytvynenko (@JaneLytv), Senior Research Fellow at Harvard's Shorenstein Center Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode More to explore: Subscribe for free to Recode Media, Peter Kafka, one of the media industry's most acclaimed reporters, talks to business titans, journalists, comedians, and more to get their take on today's media landscape. About Recode by Vox: Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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slash voxpod this is recode media with peter kofka that is me today we are talking about war and how to cover a war and

1:13.6

how to consume coverage of a war and how the current war, that's Russia's invasion of Ukraine,

1:18.6

may or may not be different than previous conflicts we've covered and what it means to have all of this unfolding on TV and Twitter and TikTok all at once. Oh, and

1:27.9

Telegram. Turns out I need to learn a lot more about Telegram than I thought. To do all that,

1:33.7

we're talking to three different experts. Clarissa Ward is CNN's chief international correspondent.

1:38.9

She's reporting on the ground from Kiev, at least for now. Puck's Julia Yaffe is based in Washington.

1:44.1

She has deep ties in

1:44.9

Russia and really good geopolitical insight. Jane Litvinenko is a former BuzzFeed journalist who's now at

1:50.4

Harvard-Schornstein Center. She specializes in uncovering and explaining disinformation online.

1:56.1

She is also a native of Kiev. We're going to get right into this, but two quick notes before we do.

2:01.3

One on timing, we talked to Clarissa Ward on Tuesday afternoon, which is why in that interview,

2:05.5

she's talking about Joe Biden's upcoming State of the Union address and a bombing that just

2:09.4

happened that day. We talked with both Julia and Jane on Wednesday, so their conversation

2:14.4

is slightly more current. And because we're talking about war and

2:18.2

violence on this podcast, we do touch on a few graphic descriptions of what war and violence

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