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slash voxpod this is recode media with peter kofka that is me i hope you're well i hope you've weathered

the second year of the pandemic.

And on a related note, something I haven't been able to say since 2019. I'm headed to Austin

for South by Southwest. Some of my favorite trips slash boondoggles. I'm delighted to come back.

If you're around there the first weekend of the show, please say hi. I will be

the guy who looks like a podcaster. On today's show, I talked to the New York Times, Shira Obaday,

but something we really haven't seen before big tech companies, one after another, taking moves

against Russia, or at least in support of Ukraine, and why that matters now and perhaps down the road.

And then I talked to Kirsten Grind. She's the co-author of Happy at any cost, a new book about the

fascinating life and tragic death of Tony Shea, the founder and CEO of Zappos.

Kirsten's day job was reporting for the Wall Street Journal, where she led the pack reporting

about the troubled culture at Activision, which led to the games giant selling itself to Microsoft, so we talked

about that as well.

It's a good show.

You're going to like it.

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