I think just to give it a shot and to be persistent with it but also like really

patient with yourself and to just you know keep plugging away at it and

asking you know there's tons of knowledge in this community and basically everyone

I've met in the ultra- community is more than happy and ready to help, you know, give some advice or go on a run with you or I mean, it's the most welcoming community I've ever been a part of and I think that needs to be

leveraged in getting more people out on the trails because it's hard like when I first started trail running

I was falling every time I went trail running at least two or three times and so it

would be easy to to give up and be like oh it's not for me but if you just chip away

at it try again it can come around for sure and it's totally worth that effort.

What is up my homies? Welcome to a brand new episode of the Bill Yonge

podcast The Jordan episode or as it now applies to my purple and gold Los Angeles

Lakers LeBron's number episode Purple and Gold, Los Angeles Lakers,

LeBron's number, episode 23 of the YP.

My name is Bill Yang.

I am a filmmaker. I am a runner, a foodie, a lover, not a fighter of the outdoors, and of course most recently a

podcaster.

But before I introduce you to my first guest, I want to take a quick moment to talk about my very first

piece of merch in the form of a co-branded collab shirt with my friends at Path Projects.

I'm very excited about this. Who is Path though?

Well Path is a premium mens running apparel brand with a focus on creating great

products using really quality fabrics. The branding is minimal which appeals to my personal aesthetic and

basically you don't feel like a giant dork going somewhere directly before or

after a run because it's stylish too and it blends in.

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