Welcome to the Animal Law podcast.

On this episode, we are joined by Noah Greenwald, and he is the Endangered Species Program Director at the Center for Biological Diversity.

He's been working on Endangered Species Act cases for around 30 years.

And he is a bit different than most of our

guests because he comes at animal law litigation from a somewhat different direction. He's not a

lawyer but works very closely with the lawyers and is in this case one of the declarants,

who are, of course, a crucial part of endangered species litigation, and we'll talk about

why. And he's here to talk about

this incredibly important case in which the Northern District of California very recently

struck down four of six challenged regulatory provisions. These had been put in place by

the former Trump administration, then kind of fooled with by the butt.

Anyway, it's been a process, but we're just dealing with where we are now.

And they're a problem, or they were a problem, until this litigation came down.

They drastically weakened two of the acts core mechanisms.

And the efforts to reduce the power of the Endangered Species Act have perhaps, they've always existed.

They've always been working on it.

But they've never been more vehement, I think, than they are right now.

And we're pleased to be able to unpack what is really an incredibly important case.

So welcome, Noah.

Thanks for joining us.

Thank you, Marian.

And just a quick reminder about the Our Henhouse podcast. Rising Anxieties comes out on Tuesdays, the Hand Report on Thursdays, and the

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