Welcome to Rising Anxieties.

I'm Marianne Sullivan.

This is where we talk about what's worrying the animal abuse industries.

What's worrying me?

Maybe what's worrying you.

I think everybody's very worried at the moment.

I've got a lot of things. But we try to stick to animals here.

There's a lot of other stuff going on in the world.

So I'm supposed to say, don't forget, we're a podcast, we're on YouTube.

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And a few weeks ago, I did a rant on this program.

And I thought that would be a one time only.

And one person commented, I should do it more often.

And I assumed that you all agree.

Anyway, something's really been bugging me.

And so I'm going to rant because my anxieties are rising a lot about this.

I think everybody should be.

It has to do with movement

culture and goals. And the current theme that I'm seeing everywhere among many in the animal

rights movement, as we call it, is not necessarily pro-veganism, but anti-factory farming. And seeing this is a unifying theme, a big tent, we can bring in a lot of people. We don't lead with veganism. We lead with something that everybody's against. Like everybody's, not everybody, but most everybody's against factory farming. Or at least you're willing to give lip service to that. And a lot of people authentically, they think it's a bad thing. I'm all for it.

Anti-factory farming, yes, I'm in. I'm totally anti-factory farming. But I don't understand

some of the discourse around it. I don't understand how you say you're against factory farming,

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